Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




Mad Scientist
19825 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2682

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

Topic # 119032 17-May-2013 20:23
Send private message

My house address has no UFB "until 2015-2016"

But my neighbour behind me has UFB

Is there any way to get UFB from his street (behind my street)?

I suspect the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask :D




Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.


Create new topic
867 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 141

Trusted

  Reply # 821341 17-May-2013 20:49
2 people support this post
Send private message

Just wire a cat5E (or even a fibre version depending on the distance and the depth of your wallet) and share your neighbours UFB connection. I'm sure paying half on their 100/10 will give you lots of bandwidth...

3845 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1556

Subscriber

  Reply # 821558 18-May-2013 12:18
Send private message

This is what you want. Get a pair of these, set them up as a layer 2 bridge and then get your ISP to get the connection installed at your neighbours. I believe you can have multiple RSP's delivering service out of the one ONT so your neighbour could still get a completely separate connection.

 
 
 
 


1974 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 399

Subscriber

  Reply # 821582 18-May-2013 13:09
Send private message

They look great devices at a good price, chev.

1239 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 156


  Reply # 821587 18-May-2013 13:25
Send private message

chevrolux: This is what you want. Get a pair of these, set them up as a layer 2 bridge and then get your ISP to get the connection installed at your neighbours. I believe you can have multiple RSP's delivering service out of the one ONT so your neighbour could still get a completely separate connection.


+1 top gear and good solution.



Mad Scientist
19825 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2682

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 821588 18-May-2013 13:27
Send private message

hmm not sure if the neighbor will agree to it

what do I tell him it involves?

so it's a wireless bridge to my house router?

Will the isp agree?




Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.




Mad Scientist
19825 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2682

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 821589 18-May-2013 13:27
Send private message

hmm not sure if the neighbor will agree to it

what do I tell him it involves?

so it's a wireless bridge to my house router?

Will the isp agree?




Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.


3845 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1556

Subscriber

  Reply # 821632 18-May-2013 14:50
Send private message

Yes it is a wireless bridge. You will get very very good throughput if the distance is short. Those loco M5's or good for about 1km. If you need longer there is the standard M5.

Obviously you would need your neighbours permission. Your local fibre co will get the install doen which will involve getting in in from the street and wiring it to the chosen position for the ONT. Have a look through the forums for examples of UFB installs around the place. They are generally quite tidy and quite unobtrusive. Then you will need to run a cable up to the roof (or wherever the nanostation will be positioned).

The ISP doesn't care how you use the service but for support they would probably want their router in the house with the connection and not after the bridge. But technically speaking you can run the bridge between the ONT and the router and your ISP will be none the wiser. To make it more attractive for your neighbour you could pay half the connection each and share it using a routing system like Gargoyle so you both get a fair chance with the bandwidth.

56 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  Reply # 822279 20-May-2013 10:33
Send private message

There should be no installation involved by the L1 contractor (Chorus/Downer/Whoever). The installation of a second service is logical, purely a provisioning job. You would need to hire someone to carry out the physical install of the wifi bridge (pending your neighbours agreement of course) and configure that if you are not comfortable doing so. But as far as the second service being installed, it would be delivered by one of the other UNI's on the existing ONT.



Mad Scientist
19825 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2682

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 822447 20-May-2013 14:24
Send private message

so will the bridge draw power from the neighbour?




Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.


3033 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 299


  Reply # 822455 20-May-2013 14:37
Send private message

joker97: so will the bridge draw power from the neighbour?


Yes it would.

How close is your neigbour?
Do they have a wireless network that you can pick up from your place?
If they do you could look at getting a WRT54GL and flashing DD-WRT onto it and using that to grab your neighbours wireless signal and then distribute from there.  This wouldn't use any power at the neighbours.

You would need their wireless network security settings of course. :)

895 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 285


  Reply # 822475 20-May-2013 15:20
Send private message

knoydart: Just wire a cat5E (or even a fibre version depending on the distance and the depth of your wallet) and share your neighbours UFB connection. I'm sure paying half on their 100/10 will give you lots of bandwidth...


I do this with my neighbour -- he can get TelstraClear/Vodafone 100Mbps cable, I can't.  Works really well -- if you have a good path for the cable to follow, will be more reliable than wifi.

The tricky bit is if you're sharing a connection with a cap, how do you know whose fault it is when you get a huge bill?  I'd suggest an uncapped connection -- unless you're capable of monitoring each person's usage AND you're sufficiently friendly with each other to be unlikely to end up in an "your monitoring system says I did 2TB but all I did was watch a few hours of youtube" argument.

867 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 141

Trusted

  Reply # 822483 20-May-2013 15:34
Send private message

As previously mentioned in the thread, you can spit out a separate UFB service on another port on the ONT (from another or the same RSP as the 1st UFB service provider). So you could avoid the sharing of a single subscription and any issues on that front.

800 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 264

Trusted

  Reply # 822489 20-May-2013 15:44
Send private message

Does that work now? Pretty sure I read somewhere that someone who wanted two internet services over UFB had to have two ONTs installed, as Chorus doesn't support multiple services per ONT yet?

614 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 32


  Reply # 822613 20-May-2013 18:47
Send private message

Im doing exactly that with the M5's to get UFB from just over 1km away. Im in massey up on a hill and picking it up from the bottom end of Daytona Road. If you drive down there you can see a two story house with a couple dish's on the roof as its being sent elsewere too. Im getting local LAN speeds of upto 8mbytes/s over the link.

56 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  Reply # 823856 22-May-2013 23:04
Send private message

Lorenceo: Does that work now? Pretty sure I read somewhere that someone who wanted two internet services over UFB had to have two ONTs installed, as Chorus doesn't support multiple services per ONT yet?


Chorus = Fail in that case...

The logistics involved are simple. It is very possible, I have done this personally, both in a lab environment, and in the 'wild'. Why go to the expense of blowing and lighting another fibre and installing another ONT when you can supply up to 3 Bitstream 2 Services off a single ONT (This holds true for the Huawei ONTs deployed by Enable and Ultrafast, I cannot comment on the specific model being supplied and installed by Chorus)?

Create new topic


Donate via Givealittle


Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Amazon introduces new Kindle with adjustable front light
Posted 21-Mar-2019 20:14


A call from the companies providing internet access for the great majority of New Zealanders, to the companies with the greatest influence over social media content
Posted 19-Mar-2019 15:21


Two e-scooter companies selected for Wellington trial
Posted 15-Mar-2019 17:33


GeForce GTX 1660 available now
Posted 15-Mar-2019 08:47


Artificial Intelligence to double the rate of innovation in New Zealand by 2021
Posted 13-Mar-2019 14:47


LG demonstrates smart home concepts at LG InnoFest
Posted 13-Mar-2019 14:45


New Zealanders buying more expensive smartphones
Posted 11-Mar-2019 09:52


2degrees Offers Amazon Prime Video to Broadband Customers
Posted 8-Mar-2019 14:10


D-Link ANZ launches D-Fend AC2600 Wi-Fi Router Protected by McAfee
Posted 7-Mar-2019 11:09


Slingshot commissions celebrities to design new modems
Posted 5-Mar-2019 08:58


Symantec Annual Threat Report reveals more ambitious, destructive and stealthy attacks
Posted 28-Feb-2019 10:14


FUJIFILM launches high performing X-T30
Posted 28-Feb-2019 09:40


Netflix is killing content piracy says research
Posted 28-Feb-2019 09:33


Trend Micro finds shifting threats require kiwis to rethink security priorities
Posted 28-Feb-2019 09:27


Mainfreight uses Spark IoT Asset Tracking service
Posted 28-Feb-2019 09:25



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.