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Topic # 129082 3-Sep-2013 12:33

Now that Television has almost completed the transformation to Digital

Is the Landline (copper) service to the Home going to transition to Digital.

Other Services like Fibre are already Digital.

Should mean that Voice, Alarm monitoring etc would be better serviced.

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Reply # 888903 3-Sep-2013 12:37

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It will happen but as a very slow transition I think. A lot of services should be IP based like alarm monitoring already but the industry has been very slow to adapt.

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Reply # 888919 3-Sep-2013 13:06

When you say "digital" you mean VoIP?

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Reply # 888925 3-Sep-2013 13:11

They are digital now have been since I was a kid I am now 40

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Reply # 888926 3-Sep-2013 13:12

My understanding of Voice services to the home at present is that "the last mile (from the exchange to the home) is analogue", everything else is digital from that point on.

The main systems are all digital now (telephone exchanges went through years of phasing out analogue (mechanical) and replacing it with digital), and it is now just the home phones and dial up monitoring etc.

You could use the same analogy with TV.

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Reply # 888954 3-Sep-2013 13:39

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The analog connection between a phone and the network is prettymuch here for a long time, as its the only guaranteed compatible way for a user to plug a phone bought from anywhere into an outlet and get a "dial tone" and have it work.

Digital to the premises is here already with UFB, either VOIP on a ISP router or else thru the sockets on the ONT whenever and ISP gets around to deploying them.

Fully digital provisioned systems like the orcon genius have problems in that you are forced to use their substandard pre-configured hardware, whereas an analog jack on something lets you plug in any nicely designed landline or cordless telephone that is not like talking into a piece of tupperware like the genius.

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Reply # 888977 3-Sep-2013 14:10

FOCUS0:
Other Services like Fibre are already Digital.

Should mean that Voice, Alarm monitoring etc would be better serviced.

A move to VoIP means every existing low speed data connection (ie an alarm) is not guaranteed to work and will ideally require an upgrade to a product supporting IP to work. This is a massive change, especially for an alarm industry that has many people and companies still stuck in the dark ages.

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Reply # 889141 3-Sep-2013 17:54

sbiddle:
FOCUS0:
Other Services like Fibre are already Digital.

Should mean that Voice, Alarm monitoring etc would be better serviced.

A move to VoIP means every existing low speed data connection (ie an alarm) is not guaranteed to work and will ideally require an upgrade to a product supporting IP to work. This is a massive change, especially for an alarm industry that has many people and companies still stuck in the dark ages.

A shame really, think of the high end alarm systems they could be doing, viewing remote cameras and resetting the alarm if it was just the dog set it off, or actually ringing the cops and letting them know what they see (as opposed to sending out a security guard who can't do jack) etc. Oh well, I guess people just install the lowest common denominator and enjoy the insurance benefits, rather than actually prevent theft. Heck, I think you still get insurance benefits even if it's not monitored.

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Reply # 889317 3-Sep-2013 22:35

You would let some random security company have visibility into your house? IMO that is insane!

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Reply # 889354 4-Sep-2013 00:45

richms: You would let some random security company have visibility into your house? IMO that is insane!

If they're doing the job you hope they're doing they'll send out armourguard to poke around your property and look through windows looking for anything untoward, same privacy concerns only not as useful as knowing in real time what's happening. You could have the cameras off when the alarm's off, pick the spots so they only cover hallways and entry points, monitor other sensors to see which windows may be broken, which motion sensors are going off, and maybe even track the dog collar. You don't need to give them 24/7 access to your bathrooms and bedrooms for them to have real time access to useful surveillance, surveillance which they could use to tell real crimes from incorrect set alarms, and capture offender images, in less time than it would take for guards or cops to show up. Heck, maybe you'll monitor the alarm yourself and watch it all real time on your iphone while your also talking to the cops, no random security company.

Would I have it? Maybe, maybe not; it's a moot question since I couldn't afford it. But it would be technically possible, and someone could be making money off setting up these kind of IP alarm systems.