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#133958 9-Nov-2013 10:42
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This is a very interesting read about Google Chromium cache performance.

 

For example: "How long do you think it takes for an average Windows Chrome user to fill up the browser cache? Well, for those users who filled up their cache , 25% of them fill it up in 4 hours. 50% of them fill it up within 20 hours. 75% of them fill it up within 48 hours. Now, that's just wall clock time...but how many hours of "active" browsing does it take to fill the cache? 25% in 1 hour, 50% in 4 hours, and 75% in 10 hours. Wow. That seems really quick to me. Remember though, every resource goes into the cache, in order to support back-forward navigation."

 

Now this part is frightening: "So, a quickly filled up cache is a one reason why servers perceive a lower than expected cache hit rate. While chatting with Ricardo, he drew my attention to a few other anomalies in our metrics. First, a surprisingly high number of users like to clear their cache. Around 7% of users will clear their cache (via chrome://settings) at least once per week. Furthermore, 19% of users will experience fatal cache corruption at least once per week, thus requiring nuking the whole cache. Wow, the cache gets wiped, either explicitly by the user, or due to corruption, for a large chunk of our user base. We definitely need to investigate what's up with all this cache corruption."

 

I just looked back at the annual State of Browsers on Geekzone March 2013 and comparing to current stats I found that Google Chrome just went up to 44%, Firefox went down to 22% and Internet Explorer went down to 18%, in only seven months. That’s a huge shift towards Google Chrome.

 

How do you folks think this impact in someone using Chrome in terms of perceived performance? Have you ever noticed any performance change over the course of weeks when using Chrome? And with Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 available now (which includes performance improvements, compatibility, SPDY support and more) how is this going to affect things? 





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  #929881 9-Nov-2013 10:48
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One big thing I've recently noted with chrome is the memory usage... I am sure they have a bug because if you have facebook or tweetdeck open for a day, the tabs will routinely consume 700Mb+ of RAM which will continue to grow until you restart the browser.  live.geekzone.co.nz also grows its memory usage the longer it's open.  It seems to be if there are ajax updates happening, the memory grows and grows...

I've had to switch to Firefox because this kills my machine in short order.  Firefox with the same tabs that were consuming 3.5Gb+ in Chrome after being open for a day, is consuming consistently just over 600Mb of RAM, and i've had it open for days now.  Performance is similar.  Compatibility is actually better, at least for the sites I use.

Google don't seem to listen to feedback.  This bug has been open for months in their bug tracker, with little progress.  It was supposed to be fixed in recent Canary builds, and while it's improved slightly, it's not fixed.

Chrome was great about a year ago, but I think they've lost the plot now they're the dominant browser.



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  #929885 9-Nov-2013 10:52
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ubergeeknz: Chrome was great about a year ago, but I think they've lost the plot now they're the dominant browser.


As in every situation when the little guy gets to be the big guy, right?






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  #929897 9-Nov-2013 11:23
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I've done reasonable testing on xp 32bit vs win8 64bit. Overall the memory consumption on chrome vs firefox on win8 I find chrome a far superior experience not consuming as much memory or having unexpected crashing. Whereas on xp 32bit I find the reverse true. With Chrome it is far less stable and more prone to consuming 1.2gb+ ram vs firefox that gets up to 800mb sometimes.

Flash is a complete killer and having 60+ tabs open doesn't help either.

My personal browsing habits have changed over the years anx regularly need to have 15+ tabs open on different sites when debugging internal issues. Add onto that if I have Facebook or G+ open with their flash heavy (fb) or ajax (g+ or twitter/tweetdeck) to me does make it unusable after a period of time (3-4 days) so a restart is often required.

I'm not sure if I am usual having so many tabs. But having more tabs tends to have an serious detrimental effect on the browser the longer it has been running from my experience.



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  #929899 9-Nov-2013 11:25
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I just wonder, how long did you leave the tabs open? Because that seems to be the factor for Chrome.  Certain sites are worse; eg. gmail, facebook, tweetdeck is the worst by far for growing memory usage.  At first memory usage is fine, but after leaving these tabs open for 8-9 hours ... disaster.  I'm on Win7 64-bit and tried 32 and 64 bit builds of Chromium, and vanilla 32 bit Chrome - all the same.

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  #929900 9-Nov-2013 11:27
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I use Chrome and tend to close the browser after a couple of hours anyway - habit formed in the Windows 95 days ;)





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  #929901 9-Nov-2013 11:29
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I've been in the habit of only rebooting for updates for about 2 years now, since XP really it's not been necessary... my laptop sleeps at night but rarely gets powered off.  Until this chrome bug came about in the last couple of months, I never really had any trouble.

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  #929902 9-Nov-2013 11:31
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Different people, different habits. I shutdown my PCs every night. My wife let her Mac sleep - and Chrome is open with sometimes 20 tabs or more. Then there's the complains of how that Mac is "slow"...





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  #929949 9-Nov-2013 13:24
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Very interesting stats about the cache. It sounds quite effective, apart from the 'common corruption' thing.
I generally prefer chrome as my browser, but would use firefox more if doing web dev type work. Dont want to touch IE with a 10 foot barge pole.

What I'm more interested in is their change to pepper flash rendering engine recently. I'd like to know more about the implications of this, does it use less memory?, is it more stable?, does it render images & sound the same? Does it allow google to make in-house alterations to the code implementation?...etc..

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  #931662 12-Nov-2013 18:03
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More memory means more stuff cached in memory which means less disk reads and better performance. 

Unless you're actually running out of memory or there is a memory leak... your browser (or any app) using low memory is actually bad design these days.







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