Once you get fibre connected do you have to use it?

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MikeAqua

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#153870 10-Oct-2014 14:53

Fibre is coming to our street in the next few months (physical works have started).

Is it possible to get the fibre connected and an ONT installed and continue to use broadband?

Or are the old lines removed when the fibre is connected?

This may seem like a silly question but ...

We want to take advantage of the subsidised connection, as we want to have fibre connected should we wish to sell the house

We don't need fibre - ADSL is fine for our use.

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#1151359 10-Oct-2014 14:57

I'm probably not understanding your question, because the only response I have is "why would you do that?"

Fibre is vastly superior to copper in every way - I'm not sure why you'd want to be paying a monthly fee for both just so you could continue to use copper.

As for whether your copper is removed during the install - that's going to depend on the type of install and how easy or difficult it is.

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#1151360 10-Oct-2014 15:02

Once it is connected the line is live and you will be paying. Why in the world would you rather ADSL over fibre when it is the same price and is so so much better and superior?

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#1151364 10-Oct-2014 15:07

Yea, I dont think the question is properly worded.

Its possible to have it installed but not connected and continue to use adsl as long as they dont remove any of the copper wiring. This has become somewhat common in flats that have had fibre installed. A tenant will request fibre installation and then move out. A new tenant will move in and not want to pay for fibre (for whatever reason) and will just sign up for ADSL. The unit still has fibre INSTALLED but DOES NOT have it CONNECTED.

Of course if you sign up for fibre installation with an ISP that subsidies it, you are going to be paying a contract termination fee if its terminated prematurely.

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#1151382 10-Oct-2014 15:29

Saranis: Yea, I dont think the question is properly worded.

Its possible to have it installed but not connected and continue to use adsl ... .

It costs good money to install fibre.
Why would a provider connect you for nothing so that you don't use their service?

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#1151414 10-Oct-2014 16:19

Why would you not move to fibre? Apart from the "if its not broke dont fix it" standpoint, there is no reason not to.

We are creatures of habit, more services are cropping up which will demand more bandwidth, its only to be expected usage will increase.

Clearly you are looking to the future in knowing it will be another possible selling point of the place, so you know it has its value!

The redundancy of using a corded phone in a powercut is the one arguable reason i can see for not wanting to get off copper, and well.. a UPS resolves that.

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#1151420 10-Oct-2014 16:36

Seems unlikely. You could always just get a month to month contract if you're planning on selling in the next 12 months, but they're a lot more expensive as the ISP does subsidise the install.

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#1151423 10-Oct-2014 16:41

Saranis: Yea, I dont think the question is properly worded.

Its possible to have it installed but not connected and continue to use adsl as long as they dont remove any of the copper wiring. This has become somewhat common in flats that have had fibre installed. A tenant will request fibre installation and then move out. A new tenant will move in and not want to pay for fibre (for whatever reason) and will just sign up for ADSL. The unit still has fibre INSTALLED but DOES NOT have it CONNECTED.

Of course if you sign up for fibre installation with an ISP that subsidies it, you are going to be paying a contract termination fee if its terminated prematurely.

On most providers now, Entry level fibre is the same price as ADSL, Since price isnt an issue, what other reason is there to not use fibre?

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#1151435 10-Oct-2014 16:51

Saranis: Yea, I dont think the question is properly worded.

Its possible to have it installed but not connected and continue to use adsl as long as they dont remove any of the copper wiring. This has become somewhat common in flats that have had fibre installed. A tenant will request fibre installation and then move out. A new tenant will move in and not want to pay for fibre (for whatever reason) and will just sign up for ADSL. The unit still has fibre INSTALLED but DOES NOT have it CONNECTED.

Of course if you sign up for fibre installation with an ISP that subsidies it, you are going to be paying a contract termination fee if its terminated prematurely.

It depends on the property I think. A house with a granny flat is one thing. A property with 3 or more flats probably qualifies as a multi-dwelling unit and different rules apply, which I'm sure sbiddle can quote verbatim.... and which reflects the transient nature of tenants.

The reality is someone has to pay for the first install - the landlord as the owner (and thus controller of quality of install rather than the 'bash it anywhere, its not my property' approach of tenants), or the tenant agreeing the service of a back flat etc.

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#1151436 10-Oct-2014 16:58

Saranis: Yea, I dont think the question is properly worded.

Its possible to have it installed but not connected and continue to use adsl as long as they dont remove any of the copper wiring. This has become somewhat common in flats that have had fibre installed. A tenant will request fibre installation and then move out. A new tenant will move in and not want to pay for fibre (for whatever reason) and will just sign up for ADSL. The unit still has fibre INSTALLED but DOES NOT have it CONNECTED.

Of course if you sign up for fibre installation with an ISP that subsidies it, you are going to be paying a contract termination fee if its terminated prematurely.

ISPs don't (and never have) subsidised residential installs. They are paid for by the LFC and/or Chorus. Your ISP does however have a 12 months contract once you request the install so if you cancel they're going to charge you an ETC to recover costs.

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#1151458 10-Oct-2014 17:42

How will flats ever get connected as people won't want to take a 12 month contract.....?

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#1151475 10-Oct-2014 18:36

MikeAqua: Fibre is coming to our street in the next few months (physical works have started).

Is it possible to get the fibre connected and an ONT installed and continue to use broadband?

Or are the old lines removed when the fibre is connected?

This may seem like a silly question but ...

We want to take advantage of the subsidised connection, as we want to have fibre connected should we wish to sell the house

We don't need fibre - ADSL is fine for our use.

the simple answer is to get fibre conected in the first place you have to sign up with a contract from one of the local providers - in order to keep on useing ADSL you would have to pay for both during the contract period

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#1151476 10-Oct-2014 18:39

Zeon: How will flats ever get connected as people won't want to take a 12 month contract.....?

the simple answer they wont be if no one signs up for the contact period, If a tenent wants UFB either they sign up and pay the out penaltys if they terminate early or negotiate with their land lord to have them sign up and the tenet pay tehm for the service while they are living there.

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#1151480 10-Oct-2014 18:57

InstallerUFB:
Zeon: How will flats ever get connected as people won't want to take a 12 month contract.....?

the simple answer they wont be if no one signs up for the contact period, If a tenent wants UFB either they sign up and pay the out penaltys if they terminate early or negotiate with their land lord to have them sign up and the tenet pay tehm for the service while they are living there.

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#1151484 10-Oct-2014 19:02

No you just have to invite me to use it

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#1151493 10-Oct-2014 19:22

No contract required, see the other thread "should I switch to UFB" for the my republic 3month free no obligation deal :)

[sorry, Safari refusing to copy paste the thread link at the moment :( ]

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