What is up with the 'Business Fibre Area' on the Chorus UFB map?

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#166115 3-Mar-2015 12:44

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If you switch on the Business Fibre Area layer it now extends over vast tracts of the country side, including into a number of forest parks like the Tararua Forest Park as just one bizarre example.

Another example is the town of Waipukurau. This town is not getting any residential UFB installed by Chorus, but the business fibre extends 20 or more km out from the town!

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#1250205 3-Mar-2015 12:45

Yeah, I just noticed that this is happening for Whakatane too. It doesn't look right!

Edit: Just zoomed out. Yikes. I particularly like the "channel" of fibre heading from Tauranga to Mototi Island :)

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#1250206 3-Mar-2015 12:48

Have a look down at Fiordland, it's no longer a National Park, it's a huge business area now!

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#1250207 3-Mar-2015 12:50

Maybe they're prepared to install to those places now... if you pay enough :p

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#1250208 3-Mar-2015 12:59

Isn't it part of the National Government's plans to make NZ part of the Information Superhighway?

And let all us IT workers work from home with superfast UFB connections! Go John!

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#1250209 3-Mar-2015 13:02

Now I'm really confused -

According to the upgrade map, we are already in a "business fibre" area BUT ...

"Network upgrade scheduled - UFB fibre up to 200 Mbps between Jul-2019 and Dec-2019"

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#1250228 3-Mar-2015 13:15

Hi everyone, the areas showing as Business fibre are separate to the UFB roll-out. This is based on area's that we have exchanges capable of delivering Business fibre services. Installs in these areas would involve installing point to point dedicated fibre to the requested address. ^JD

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#1250235 3-Mar-2015 13:22

Chorusnz: Hi everyone, the areas showing as Business fibre are separate to the UFB roll-out. This is based on area's that we have exchanges capable of delivering Business fibre services. Installs in these areas would involve installing point to point dedicated fibre to the requested address. ^JD

Can you confirm this is also the way schools work? I.e point to point dedicated? And therefore not part of the what we call the UFB rollout?

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#1250241 3-Mar-2015 13:29

Business Fibre is called HSNS, or Bitstream4.

Its bascially point to point rather that GPON. It has been available well before UFB was announced and uses non-ufb fibre. Therefor the reach is much bigger.

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#1250264 3-Mar-2015 13:49

timbosan:
Chorusnz: Hi everyone, the areas showing as Business fibre are separate to the UFB roll-out. This is based on area's that we have exchanges capable of delivering Business fibre services. Installs in these areas would involve installing point to point dedicated fibre to the requested address. ^JD

Can you confirm this is also the way schools work? I.e point to point dedicated? And therefore not part of the what we call the UFB rollout?

Hi, fibre to schools are being delivered either via the UFB program or the RBI program. How it is delivered it will depend on where the school is located. We have some information about fibre to schools here: https://www.chorus.co.nz/rural-broadband-initiative/rural-schools/fibre-to-rural-schools ^JD

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#1250647 3-Mar-2015 23:13

So that also means no subsidised installs? Full install costs?

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#1250666 4-Mar-2015 06:03

yes

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#1250709 4-Mar-2015 08:53

raytaylor: So that also means no subsidised installs? Full install costs?

Yes, the end user will pay full install costs. ^JD

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#1250733 4-Mar-2015 08:57

Chorusnz: Yes, the end user will pay full install costs. ^JD

I realise that this is a very general question, and that each location will differ, but are we talking $ thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands for a bespoke business fibre install?

eg a domestic dwelling 500m from an exchange.

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#1250752 4-Mar-2015 09:16

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Chorusnz: Yes, the end user will pay full install costs. ^JD

I realise that this is a very general question, and that each location will differ, but are we talking $ thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands for a bespoke business fibre install?

eg a domestic dwelling 500m from an exchange.

Entirely depends on the location and what service you're expecting. Expect easily tens of thousands an install (others would be able to give better estimates), and somewhere in the thousands per month for a P2P connection with CIR. Unless you can get GPON/UFB grade services over that P2P fibre, which i believe may be what is being done for schools when on compatible exchanges.

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#1251309 4-Mar-2015 20:17

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Chorusnz: Yes, the end user will pay full install costs. ^JD

I realise that this is a very general question, and that each location will differ, but are we talking $ thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands for a bespoke business fibre install?

eg a domestic dwelling 500m from an exchange.

There isn't a simple answer to that, but somewhere in the vicinity of $5k - $20k would be a very approximate figure.

Remember you'll then be paying around $500 (at a bare minimum in a big city) for a 100Mbps connection, excluding any data.

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