Broadband next 6 months, next 12 months. ??

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brucie44

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#16864 31-Oct-2007 23:52

   with unbundling and other things.   What wiill be the impact on broadand users ?

   cheaper costs ? more volume, more speed ?

    seems crazy to increase speeds, whilst data prices or restrictions remain the same.

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#93244 31-Oct-2007 23:57

I very much doubt we will see cheaper offerings. There's a bottom limit, and this is dictated by the wholesale price - then ISPs need to put their margin on top. Other discussions here have shown that based on some initial calculations savings on naked DSL would be minimal, if any, when you add the phone line you need to use - because you will still have a "phone line", even if you use VoIP, because those are not free.

Also, remember people get what they pay for. Very cheap "broadband" will probably be bundles (such as Vodafone's "free" 1 GB a month that requires phone with them) or very limited.

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brucie44

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#93246 1-Nov-2007 00:04

freitasm: I very much doubt we will see cheaper offerings. There's a bottom limit,

thanks Mauricio,

LOL the future looks grim :)

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#93250 1-Nov-2007 01:45

I agree - more choice of providers - but not necessarily more choice of plans, technologies, etc. Like Freitasm - I can't see prices changing that much. Low pricing only works when you have high volume - and the volume of users in NZ was never going to be that great to begin with - less so when you have 2 or 3 large operators backed by large corporates (Telecom, Telstra, Vodafone) - plus another 30 or so regional ISPs?

One of the disadvantages of government policy promoting DSL, setting pricing for wholesale, etc - is that it pushes/encourages ISPs to go down that road and made it harder for anyone else who wanted to use a different technology (why invest in new technology when someone in a garage can resell DSL at a cheaper price). And all those ISPs investing in their own DSLAMs have to pay back the equipment. IMHO - its due mostly to the fact that the Governments whole approach is directed at Telecom - hence they are regulating the company, not the industry. A bit like the All Blacks quarter final when Wayne Barnes came on with the approach of reffing the team, not the game (but lets not go there). This is further backed up by the fact that while there has been a lot of new legislation in the past year - it only applies to Telecom. You don't need a license to be an ISP, there are no minimum technical service levels you have to comply with (only the consumers gurantees act, and Fair Trade), and you can quite literally operate out of a garage.

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#93251 1-Nov-2007 05:49

I quite agree with MF too. As I said in another thread I am with Xnet with both my broadband and their VFX voip phone. I am paying up to $79.95 a month for the BB and $45.00 for the phone as I have my number tranfered to my vfx service. So yes I have a 30 gig data cap as my son plays online games and does some downloading and I do some downloading as well. Now when naked dsl comes along I only live about 800 metres from our exchange. If I was to take the Xnets starting package that Maverick mentioned in another thread of $69.95 and then add 30 gigs of data (I am guessing that the 69.95 is just for naked dsl and VFX together) that would be $99.95 compared to $124.95. A saving of about $25 which to me is quite substantial. Unlike some others in another thread that want the whole $41.00 back in their pockets before they see it as a saving. I think that naked dsl and voip at the moment will benefit people like myself that have a high data usage thats where the savings will be until telecom turn off their pstn service and put everyone on voip. If you get someone on the other end of the scale that only pays $29.95 a month for their BB and $41.00 for their landline would probably end up paying more for naked dsl and a voip service at this time.

brucie44

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#93301 1-Nov-2007 15:44

woww ...
   thanks for the info guys.
   Appears my buddies" double the speed, 1/2 the price, abandament of data caps" is overly optimistic.

    regards,
                Bruce.