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#171075 4-Apr-2015 21:54
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So im looking at getting a wireless rural broadband connection, i live in Miranda which is a few km southwest of kaiaua. (i can pm you exact location if you need it)


So i called vodafone to begin with and they said i was not able to get it in my area because there is a hill to the south that blocks the direct line of sight.

So then i also tried lightwire who said the same thing except they said they may be able to connect me to the tower to the north east in kaiaua. They sent a technician to do a service check and said yes they were picking up signal from kaiaua (roughly 10-15km away) and from another tower north west towards bombay/pukekohe. (not sure of distance)

Now im pretty sure i read somewhere that lightwire runs its services off a few vodafone towers. so i took a look at the celltower map and it shows that the areas that lightwire mentioned that i can connect to are vodafone towers (or theres a vodafone tower in the same position). So that leads me to think, why couldnt vodafone offer to connect me to those locations?

The person who i did talk to on the phone from vodafone didnt really seem to know what they were talking about, always having to put me on hold to refer to someone else for answers.

So my questions are:

1. So if lightwire are running through the vodafone towers at those areas, shouldnt vodafone also be able to connect me from those areas?

2. whats the max distance you can connect to a cell tower for a stable connection?

3. i know that vodafone are upgrading their towers to 4g but are other providers such as lightwire and others planning to upgrade theirs to something similar?

3. when 4g comes out whats roughly the max distance to connect to that?



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  #1277285 4-Apr-2015 23:36
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Lightwire runs P2P wireless off its own equipment - if you can get that then I would suggest you just go for it otherwise your only other solution is Satellite.

I would suggest you go and visit Kaiaua and ask them how they get onto the internet - I couldn't see any satellite dishes but the area also has no xDSL at all.




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  #1277309 5-Apr-2015 00:34
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Thumbs up for Lightwire's rural wireless service. I'd give that a go.

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  #1277310 5-Apr-2015 01:45
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do any of you have any experience with lightwire or know anyone with? im really looking for something with good DL/Latency because im mainly going to use the net for gaming and watching streams reason why im kinda looking at vodafone is because they are rolling out their 4g wireless rural service soon which will be really good compared to 3g and i feel lightwire wont upgrade anytime soon, if at all. Even vodafones 3g has dual carrier antennas at the moment right? ive read on here some people get 20-30mb download speed with it. Where as lightwire only advertises something like 5mb download.



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  #1277316 5-Apr-2015 06:16
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Lightwire runs its own gear and you will get fixed broadband sized caps. With any mobile provider you will get mobile broadband caps at mobile broadband prices. 5gb for $100 if you're lucky.

I would focus far more on the data cap rather than the speed. Unless your funds are unlimited as it will quickly add up if you are gaming or streaming any media. When the next patch for your game comes out as a 4gb download and you end up with an overage bill..... ouch

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  #1277317 5-Apr-2015 06:16
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4G roll out for RBI has been happening for a while now

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  #1277354 5-Apr-2015 09:32
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BarTender: Lightwire runs its own gear and you will get fixed broadband sized caps. With any mobile provider you will get mobile broadband caps at mobile broadband prices. 5gb for $100 if you're lucky.

I would focus far more on the data cap rather than the speed. Unless your funds are unlimited as it will quickly add up if you are gaming or streaming any media. When the next patch for your game comes out as a 4gb download and you end up with an overage bill..... ouch



The current price for mobile broadband is 105$ for 30gig. Gaming doesnt really use up much data apart from the patches but they only pump them out once every 2months. I currently play games off my mobile tether which is 2gig cap. Also over the last year or two vodafone have gone from 5gig to 30gig so the track they are on i wont be suprised if they are sitting at 100gig soon.

Mainly after good speed/latency which is my only doubt against lightwire otherwise i would have got it..

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  #1277399 5-Apr-2015 11:17
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Miranda appears to have 1MB/s ADSL, unless I'm reading the map incorrectly?

 
 
 

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  #1277416 5-Apr-2015 11:29
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quickymart: Miranda appears to have 1MB/s ADSL, unless I'm reading the map incorrectly?


yeah it does but wireless rural offers more then 1mb/s.. also apparently the cables run on the other side of the road so they said it would cost $3000 to dig a trench and everything which i would rather not if rural wireless is better. 

  #1277417 5-Apr-2015 11:30
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quickymart: SOME of Miranda appears to have 1MB/s ADSL, unless I'm reading the map incorrectly?


i made a correction to your post

that wont be enough for streaming and gaming

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  #1277419 5-Apr-2015 11:34
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Jase2985:
quickymart: SOME of Miranda appears to have 1MB/s ADSL, unless I'm reading the map incorrectly?


i made a correction to your post

that wont be enough for streaming and gaming


yeah thats why im looking at rural wireless as most of them offer 5mb/s. My area of miranda offers 5mb/s ADSL but they said they would need to dig a trench and lay cables because the cables run on the wrong side of the road. the quote they sent me was $3000.

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  #1277423 5-Apr-2015 11:43
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What i really want to know is, vodafone has a cell tower in kaiaua which on the cell tower map seems to be exactly where the lightwire tower is, so shouldnt vodafone be able to connect me to their service since lightwire is able to? and i know 4g has been rolling out for awhile and that they are soon to release the 4g capable modems, whats the max distance (in km) that you would need to be in range to be able to pickup the 4g with the new modem when its released.

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  #1277429 5-Apr-2015 12:20
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Deathstroke: What i really want to know is, vodafone has a cell tower in kaiaua which on the cell tower map seems to be exactly where the lightwire tower is, so shouldnt vodafone be able to connect me to their service since lightwire is able to? and i know 4g has been rolling out for awhile and that they are soon to release the 4g capable modems, whats the max distance (in km) that you would need to be in range to be able to pickup the 4g with the new modem when its released.

I am 12km away from the celltower I'm connected to using 900MHz 3G.  AFAIK, it will work up to about 30km, but obviously the speed will reduce.

When 700MHz 4G is enabled, I would expect the range to increase.  JohnR may be able to give you some indication of how much.





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  #1277448 5-Apr-2015 13:03
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Deathstroke: What i really want to know is, vodafone has a cell tower in kaiaua which on the cell tower map seems to be exactly where the lightwire tower is, so shouldnt vodafone be able to connect me to their service since lightwire is able to? and i know 4g has been rolling out for awhile and that they are soon to release the 4g capable modems, whats the max distance (in km) that you would need to be in range to be able to pickup the 4g with the new modem when its released.

I am 12km away from the celltower I'm connected to using 900MHz 3G.  AFAIK, it will work up to about 30km, but obviously the speed will reduce.

When 700MHz 4G is enabled, I would expect the range to increase.  JohnR may be able to give you some indication of how much.


i recall some mention of this, excuse me im im recalling slightly wrong here.. isnt 700mhz power dropped to match that of the distance of 900mhz since voice over 4G isnt supported?




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  #1277459 5-Apr-2015 13:37
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grant_k:
Deathstroke: What i really want to know is, vodafone has a cell tower in kaiaua which on the cell tower map seems to be exactly where the lightwire tower is, so shouldnt vodafone be able to connect me to their service since lightwire is able to? and i know 4g has been rolling out for awhile and that they are soon to release the 4g capable modems, whats the max distance (in km) that you would need to be in range to be able to pickup the 4g with the new modem when its released.

I am 12km away from the celltower I'm connected to using 900MHz 3G.  AFAIK, it will work up to about 30km, but obviously the speed will reduce.

When 700MHz 4G is enabled, I would expect the range to increase.  JohnR may be able to give you some indication of how much.


Range will not increase sites are setup so they offer the similar coverage foot print to U900

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  #1277549 5-Apr-2015 17:26
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Hi Dylan,

I do installs in Waikato - Northland for one of the RBI providers: http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/rbi-wireless.html 

Most of Miranda area seems to be covered, but would need an exact address to check. We specialise in high data plans, but also our enhanced plans give more consistent latency during peak time load. Latency is always going to be higher than on fixed line or fibre, but 4G will help reduce this a bit too. ETA for access to 4G is mid-late May, but don't quote me on this, as it depends on successful testing & availability of the new LTE700 router.

A few reasons to go with us:
- No CG-NAT. CG-NAT can sometimes cause issues with gaming, but also no CG-NAT means you can setup port forwards if needed
- Static IP available on request on most of our plans
- We specialise in high data usage and enhanced (more consistent latency) plans
- We're a smaller ISP who specialise in serving rural customers


Anyway, feel free to get in touch with me if you would like more info. Also, a couple of pings below from my Ultimate Broadband RBI Wireless connection.


 

ping www.trademe.co.nz

 

Pinging www.trademe.co.nz [202.162.72.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 202.162.72.2: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=247
Reply from 202.162.72.2: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=247
Reply from 202.162.72.2: bytes=32 time=68ms TTL=247
Reply from 202.162.72.2: bytes=32 time=69ms TTL=246

 

Ping statistics for 202.162.72.2:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 66ms, Maximum = 86ms, Average = 72ms

 

ping www.vodafone.com.au

 

Pinging e1519.a.akamaiedge.net [23.222.86.85] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 23.222.86.85: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=56
Reply from 23.222.86.85: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=56
Reply from 23.222.86.85: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=56
Reply from 23.222.86.85: bytes=32 time=91ms TTL=56

 

Ping statistics for 23.222.86.85:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 83ms, Maximum = 117ms, Average = 97ms






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