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#175632 6-Jul-2015 17:04

Just curious - as I have got Gigatown (via Snap), I want to know what your max connection has been?
The Chorus installer said he had seen a max of just under 800Mbit on one of the connections.

So I am curious, anyone got anything close to 1000?
Should we be able to get 1000?

Someone in the Snap forum, complained that he was only getting 180 from a 200 connection and after being looked at by Snap it was resolved to a 200 connection.

So while I am happy with 689, should I be trying to get 1000?

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#1338052 6-Jul-2015 17:23

Much like a 100Mbps connection can only do ~93Mbps, you quite simply can't get 1000Mbps, it'll top out at around 930Mbps.

There are literally hundreds of factors that will determine your speed and somebody getting 180Mbps on 200Mbps connection is a very different issue.

My view is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with your connection and people need to understand how a 1Gbps connection works, the uses of it, have realistic real world expectations and understand the limitations that come into play once you start hitting such speeds. Others may beg to differ.

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#1338055 6-Jul-2015 17:28

Are you getting 689 over WiFi or LAN cable?

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#1338062 6-Jul-2015 17:43

johnr: Are you getting 689 over WiFi or LAN cable?

Over WIFI??? Is that even remotely possible?

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#1338063 6-Jul-2015 17:49

simon14:
johnr: Are you getting 689 over WiFi or LAN cable?

Over WIFI??? Is that even remotely possible?

Yes mabe

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#1338083 6-Jul-2015 18:56

My cheap supplied router connects at 800Mbps. Apparently can do 1300 but my poor laptop can only do 800. So 800 it does! Don't talk about data transfer though ... Another laptop connects at 300 Mbps. Transfer one giant file.... Drum roll ... 10MBps (ie 80Mbps)

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#1338118 6-Jul-2015 19:59

joker97: My cheap supplied router connects at 800Mbps. Apparently can do 1300 but my poor laptop can only do 800. So 800 it does! Don't talk about data transfer though ... Another laptop connects at 300 Mbps. Transfer one giant file.... Drum roll ... 10MBps (ie 80Mbps)

the speed its connected at is in no way shape of form an indication of the connections performance.

my laptop is currently connected at 390Mbps, but in the real world the actual throughput of the connection is a little more than 250Mbps. i could probably get it a little faster by moving the modem and the laptop to give the absolute best connection but im not going to sit 3ft from the tv on the floor to use it. WiFi links have overheads which is why you will never get the connected speed.

There will be some people who pay for a 1Gbps connection and have a cry because they cant get it in the real world, but like Steve said there are literally 10's or reasons why, most being the physical devices being used are just not capable of those speeds because of processing limits and overheads.

i would be happy with over 500Mbps on a 1gbps connection, but taking it down to a 200Mbps connection i would expect the full speed because most if not all of the CPE should be able to support that. Not to mention the aftermarket enthusiast gear

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#1338440 7-Jul-2015 12:33

sbiddle:

Much like a 100Mbps connection can only do ~93Mbps, you quite simply can't get 1000Mbps, it'll top out at around 930Mbps.

There are literally hundreds of factors that will determine your speed and somebody getting 180Mbps on 200Mbps connection is a very different issue.

My view is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with your connection and people need to understand how a 1Gbps connection works, the uses of it, have realistic real world expectations and understand the limitations that come into play once you start hitting such speeds. Others may beg to differ.

As I said, I am fine with hitting 689 down (450 up) and have no plans to raise the issue with Snap over why I can't get the maximum line speed of 1000

I still want to know what others in the Dunedin area are getting via Gigatown - is 689 average, poor, good or spectacular

689 speed was achieved over Ethernet
My day to day use is now over 5GHz AC Wireless which connects me at "roughly" 350-400 down and 250-300 up as my computer no longer sits right next to the modem.

Again, the speed is fantastic and I have no complaints.

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#1338444 7-Jul-2015 12:37

That speed is about average. How good is your computer/laptop also? When you're getting into those speeds that can be slowing you down too.

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#1338465 7-Jul-2015 12:57

nzkiwiman: Just curious - as I have got Gigatown (via Snap), I want to know what your max connection has been?
The Chorus installer said he had seen a max of just under 800Mbit on one of the connections.

So I am curious, anyone got anything close to 1000?
Should we be able to get 1000?

Someone in the Snap forum, complained that he was only getting 180 from a 200 connection and after being looked at by Snap it was resolved to a 200 connection.

So while I am happy with 689, should I be trying to get 1000?

Speedtest.net is largely making up that number for you as an estimate of possible peak throughput.

For the reasons others have said, you shouldn't be aiming for 1000.

689 is a fine real world result. (excluding the speedtest.net vagueries that no-one ever wants to believe exist)

Cheers - N

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#1338512 7-Jul-2015 13:29

you should be happy. i spammed until my hands bled and my head exploded for gigatown and I only get 15Mbps connection

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#1338546 7-Jul-2015 14:10

lxsw20: That speed is about average. How good is your computer/laptop also? When you're getting into those speeds that can be slowing you down too.

The main system is an Intel NUC i5 (i5-4250U, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Gigabit LAN), which suits my requirements and so is "pretty good" but of course probably not as good as a i7-4950K or a Xeon :-)
I should actually wire Dads iMac into the Friztbox and see what sort of result he gets (over WiFi he gets 1/3 more speed than I do, he is closer and has a better WiFi card)

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#1338599 7-Jul-2015 15:21

We've got about 50 customers going live on 1Gbps in Tauranga over the next 60 days or so.

Will ask for some speedtest.net results.

Right now we're advising customers to test against the Spark Auckland server as the majority of the local Speedtest servers max out way before 1Gbps.

Bit pathetic some of the speedtest servers belonging to local WISPs are sitting on 100Mbps ports.

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#1338604 7-Jul-2015 15:23

nzkiwiman:
lxsw20: That speed is about average. How good is your computer/laptop also? When you're getting into those speeds that can be slowing you down too.

The main system is an Intel NUC i5 (i5-4250U, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Gigabit LAN), which suits my requirements and so is "pretty good" but of course probably not as good as a i7-4950K or a Xeon :-)
I should actually wire Dads iMac into the Friztbox and see what sort of result he gets (over WiFi he gets 1/3 more speed than I do, he is closer and has a better WiFi card)

My MPB will do about 500/450 over Wi-Fi.

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#1338618 7-Jul-2015 15:34

Woah 800 mbps?I get 13mbs and thats fast to me

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#1338625 7-Jul-2015 15:53

myfullflavour: We've got about 50 customers going live on 1Gbps in Tauranga over the next 60 days or so.

Will ask for some speedtest.net results.

Right now we're advising customers to test against the Spark Auckland server as the majority of the local Speedtest servers max out way before 1Gbps.

Bit pathetic some of the speedtest servers belonging to local WISPs are sitting on 100Mbps ports.

Why Sparks Auckland server? As the person that specced them and did the design for them, the Spark Akl, Wgtn and Chch speedtest servers are all identical and have the same connectivity to our core network.

I see plenty of tests on them exceeding 900Mbps.

[insert disclaimer about why any given speedtest.net result might be misleading]

Cheers - N

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