Major Announcement: ARIN IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

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pdath

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#180888 25-Sep-2015 07:42

On 24 September 2015, ARIN issued the final IPv4 addresses in its free
pool. ARIN will continue to process and approve requests for IPv4
address blocks. Those approved requests may be fulfilled via the Wait
List for Unmet IPv4 Requests, or through the IPv4 Transfer Market.

For information on the Waiting List, visit:
https://www.arin.net/resources/request/waiting_list.html

For information on IPv4 Transfers, visit:
https://www.arin.net/resources/transfers/index.html

Exhaustion of the ARIN Free Pool does trigger changes in ARIN's
Specified Transfer policy (NRPM 8.3) and Inter-RIR Transfer policy (NRPM
8.4). In both cases, these changes impact organizations that have been
the source entity in a specified transfer within the last twelve months:

"The source entity (-ies within the ARIN Region (8.4)) will be
ineligible to receive any further IPv4 address allocations or
assignments from ARIN for a period of 12 months after a transfer
approval, or until the exhaustion of ARIN's IPv4 space, whichever occurs
first."

Effective today, because exhaustion of the ARIN IPv4 free pool has
occurred for the first time, there is no longer a restriction on how
often organizations may request transfers to specified recipients.

In the future, any IPv4 address space that ARIN receives from IANA, or
recovers from revocations or returns from organizations, will be used to
satisfy approved requests on the Waiting List for Unmet Requests. If we
are able to fully satisfy all of the requests on the waiting list, any
remaining IPv4 addresses would be placed into the ARIN free pool of IPv4
addresses to satisfy future requests.

ARIN encourages customers with questions about IPv4 availability to
contact hostmaster@arin.net or the Registration Services Help Desk at
+1.703.227.0660.

Regards,

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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chevrolux

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#1394395 25-Sep-2015 13:55

I don't really understand why there are all those /8's at the top of the range that look like they are controlled by some big companies like IBM, HP, GM etc. I see it says 'Legacy' but does that mean they have been redistributed? Seems a but ridiculous they have an entire /8. I can understand the likes of Google, Amazon etc having big allocations but what would HP do with a /8?!

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#1394399 25-Sep-2015 13:56

Is this just for some of America, all of America, or all of the Universe?

pdath

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#1394403 25-Sep-2015 14:04

chevrolux: I don't really understand why there are all those /8's at the top of the range that look like they are controlled by some big companies like IBM, HP, GM etc. I see it says 'Legacy' but does that mean they have been redistributed? Seems a but ridiculous they have an entire /8. I can understand the likes of Google, Amazon etc having big allocations but what would HP do with a /8?!

HP have a /8 because they were one of the very first corporates to apply. This is many decades ago.

Imagine how valuable that /8 will become in a decade.

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pdath

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#1394404 25-Sep-2015 14:08

joker97: Is this just for some of America, all of America, or all of the Universe?

This affects all of the America's. APNIC (which govern our region) is also very low - the American's just beat us to running out.

What this means is if an ISP want more IPv4 address space - say because they got some more customers - they wont be able to get it. They can do things like:
* Lease/rent/buy more address space off others
* Use NAT (like in China). Users will no longer get public IP addresses, and many applications simply break.

This also means any entity wanting a public IPv4 address should expect that the cost of this is going to start going up and up.

The expanding use of the Internet and the poor uptake of IPv6 for domestic Internet connections is going to exasperate the issue.

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sorceror

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#1394408 25-Sep-2015 14:18

chevrolux: I don't really understand why there are all those /8's at the top of the range that look like they are controlled by some big companies like IBM, HP, GM etc. I see it says 'Legacy' but does that mean they have been redistributed? Seems a but ridiculous they have an entire /8. I can understand the likes of Google, Amazon etc having big allocations but what would HP do with a /8?!

legacy in this context means that they were allocated before ARIN even existed - hence they are not bound by the same rules as all the other allocations. some don't even pay any fees.

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#1394421 25-Sep-2015 14:28

pdath: Imagine how valuable that /8 will become in a decade.

Hopefully almost zero, as the world will be on IP6.

pdath

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#1394422 25-Sep-2015 14:31

timmmay:
pdath: Imagine how valuable that /8 will become in a decade.

Hopefully almost zero, as the world will be on IP6.

But lets say you have a system that can not be upgraded. Whoever created it no longer exists, and you can't just replace it because of other dependencies.

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wellygary

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#1394427 25-Sep-2015 15:07

pdath:
HP have a /8 because they were one of the very first corporates to apply. This is many decades ago.

Imagine how valuable that /8 will become in a decade.

HP actually have 2 /8s, as they inherited DEC's /8 by way of Compaq

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#1394448 25-Sep-2015 15:55

ha 'major' announcement so what

Most of the allocated IPv4 isn't used

until people start asking and insisting on providers that provide IPv6 its going to be very slow

how many people only use an ISP that provide IPv6, how many people only host with a web provider who provides IPv6 etc

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#1394452 25-Sep-2015 16:00

chevrolux: I don't really understand why there are all those /8's at the top of the range that look like they are controlled by some big companies like IBM, HP, GM etc. I see it says 'Legacy' but does that mean they have been redistributed? Seems a but ridiculous they have an entire /8. I can understand the likes of Google, Amazon etc having big allocations but what would HP do with a /8?!

HP have multiple datacenters around the globe so I can see just as much reason for them to have a /8 as Amazon or IBM.

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