Which green ducting do I use?

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MrCat

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Topic # 206004 6-Dec-2016 12:26

Hi. We've bought a section in a small town and need to run "Telecommunications ducting" about 60m up to our boundary.

The power lines guys are going to dig a trench to run their cables along the roadside from the nearest power pole, and told me to get hold of some Chorus ducting and they'll put that in at the same time. Copper broadband.

I've hunted around but I'm not sure exactly which type / diameter or where to get hold of a 100m roll?

Any help appreciated thanks :)

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Reply # 1683249 6-Dec-2016 12:40

Have a read of this page. it should give you an idea of requirements.

https://www.chorus.co.nz/contractors/installing-underground-lead-in-pipes

Most major electrical suppliers will supply. Coreys had heaps of Chrosu ducting last time I went (Albany)

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Reply # 1683251 6-Dec-2016 12:51

Thanks for that.

It's not from the boundary to our house I mean - it's along the road to our boundary. It's an unsealed paper road.

Basically we're doing Chorus' job underground from the nearest pole to the edge of our property. Chorus could then feed their cable through and hook up the connections at either end at a later date.

Would it be the same specs?

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Reply # 1683253 6-Dec-2016 12:53

Yup same specs

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Reply # 1683257 6-Dec-2016 13:06

Great! You've been a big help thanks :)

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Reply # 1683281 6-Dec-2016 14:03

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You should only lay ducting inside the boundary of your property.

The LFC will build the network to a Network Terminal on your property boundary which can be;

Copper grey pillar or green pillar

Fibre a hand-hole, green pillar or buried duct marked by a peg

You need to identify where that is, as you need to lay the duct from that point up to your house. If you do not know where that is contact the local LFC and they can advise which point on the boundary you need to head for. In the case of Chorus call 0800 4 NETWORK (0800 463 896).

If your property has no reticulation to the boundary then you need to arrange for that via your Retail Service Provider (ISP). You will pay for the network to be brought to the boundary if it is not already there. An order for a wired landline service (phone/broadband) will kick of a process which will generate a quote for you.

Sixty metres is quite a distance, so make sure you use the correct joiners to ensure the cable won't snag at the joints when it is pulled through. Use swept bends.

Put a draw cord/tape though the duct as you lay it, as in the case of Chorus, for a UFB order we will pull the micro-duct through the 20mm duct using the draw cable when we provision the service.

The duct needs to finish adjacent to the point on the outside of the house where the electrician has pulled the internal cabling to (this is the point at which the ETP (External Termination Point) housing is fixed to the house.

The correct duct for Chorus network is Chorus branded 20mm GREEN duct. It comes in 6 metre lengths. There are specific joiners available for this duct.

This is available from the larger electrical wholesale outlets so the electrician you are using should be able to source it for you at wholesale rate.

The laying if the duct needs to conform with standards for service separation. These details are available at; https://www.chorus.co.nz/contractors/installing-underground-lead-in-pipes/installig-underground-telecommunications-lead-ins-for-urban-premises

Other LFC's will have a similar process so if you are in a Northpower/UltraFastFibre or Enable LFC area, it would pay to make contact with them to check what their requirements are.

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Reply # 1683332 6-Dec-2016 15:39

Chorusnz:

You should only lay ducting inside the boundary of your property.

The LFC will build the network to a Network Terminal on your property boundary which can be;

Copper grey pillar or green pillar

Fibre a hand-hole, green pillar or buried duct marked by a peg

You need to identify where that is, as you need to lay the duct from that point up to your house. If you do not know where that is contact the local LFC and they can advise which point on the boundary you need to head for. In the case of Chorus call 0800 4 NETWORK (0800 463 896).

If your property has no reticulation to the boundary then you need to arrange for that via your Retail Service Provider (ISP). You will pay for the network to be brought to the boundary if it is not already there. An order for a wired landline service (phone/broadband) will kick of a process which will generate a quote for you.

Sixty metres is quite a distance, so make sure you use the correct joiners to ensure the cable won't snag at the joints when it is pulled through. Use swept bends.

Put a draw cord/tape though the duct as you lay it, as in the case of Chorus, for a UFB order we will pull the micro-duct through the 20mm duct using the draw cable when we provision the service.

The duct needs to finish adjacent to the point on the outside of the house where the electrician has pulled the internal cabling to (this is the point at which the ETP (External Termination Point) housing is fixed to the house.

The correct duct for Chorus network is Chorus branded 20mm GREEN duct. It comes in 6 metre lengths. There are specific joiners available for this duct.

This is available from the larger electrical wholesale outlets so the electrician you are using should be able to source it for you at wholesale rate.

The laying if the duct needs to conform with standards for service separation. These details are available at; https://www.chorus.co.nz/contractors/installing-underground-lead-in-pipes/installig-underground-telecommunications-lead-ins-for-urban-premises

Other LFC's will have a similar process so if you are in a Northpower/UltraFastFibre or Enable LFC area, it would pay to make contact with them to check what their requirements are.

^GL

And for completeness Mr X, what happens if OP decides to take the 'feck it' approach and lays his own ducting in the trench, assumingly free for chorus to use?

I know the answer, but good to get it from the Head of the Service ;-)

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Reply # 1683333 6-Dec-2016 15:43

antoniosk:

Chorusnz:

You should only lay ducting inside the boundary of your property.

The LFC will build the network to a Network Terminal on your property boundary which can be;

Copper grey pillar or green pillar

Fibre a hand-hole, green pillar or buried duct marked by a peg

You need to identify where that is, as you need to lay the duct from that point up to your house. If you do not know where that is contact the local LFC and they can advise which point on the boundary you need to head for. In the case of Chorus call 0800 4 NETWORK (0800 463 896).

If your property has no reticulation to the boundary then you need to arrange for that via your Retail Service Provider (ISP). You will pay for the network to be brought to the boundary if it is not already there. An order for a wired landline service (phone/broadband) will kick of a process which will generate a quote for you.

Sixty metres is quite a distance, so make sure you use the correct joiners to ensure the cable won't snag at the joints when it is pulled through. Use swept bends.

Put a draw cord/tape though the duct as you lay it, as in the case of Chorus, for a UFB order we will pull the micro-duct through the 20mm duct using the draw cable when we provision the service.

The duct needs to finish adjacent to the point on the outside of the house where the electrician has pulled the internal cabling to (this is the point at which the ETP (External Termination Point) housing is fixed to the house.

The correct duct for Chorus network is Chorus branded 20mm GREEN duct. It comes in 6 metre lengths. There are specific joiners available for this duct.

This is available from the larger electrical wholesale outlets so the electrician you are using should be able to source it for you at wholesale rate.

The laying if the duct needs to conform with standards for service separation. These details are available at; https://www.chorus.co.nz/contractors/installing-underground-lead-in-pipes/installig-underground-telecommunications-lead-ins-for-urban-premises

Other LFC's will have a similar process so if you are in a Northpower/UltraFastFibre or Enable LFC area, it would pay to make contact with them to check what their requirements are.

^GL

And for completeness Mr X, what happens if OP decides to take the 'feck it' approach and lays his own ducting in the trench, assumingly free for chorus to use?

I know the answer, but good to get it from the Head of the Service ;-)

It will have a nice green snake sitting next to it to keep it company. :)

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Reply # 1683336 6-Dec-2016 15:44

antoniosk:

And for completeness Mr X, what happens if OP decides to take the 'feck it' approach and lays his own ducting in the trench, assumingly free for chorus to use?

I know the answer, but good to get it from the Head of the Service ;-)

We all know the underpaid contractor will take the easy route and use any duct to get the job done quickly and cheaply. Collect his code money and be gone

(Would rather that than running along the fence, to the closest entry point to the house which is probably the toilet)

:-)

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Reply # 1683365 6-Dec-2016 16:50

OK interesting thanks :)

I've been to my ISP and they're clueless. I"ll have to push it again with them then but I don't like my chances!

Our section doesn't have an address - it's down a grass track that's a paper road which we have permission from the local council to use as a driveway, so it's technically a public road and needs 'proper' roadside services.

The power company said they'll lay ducting in their trench if I can get hold of the correct stuff, so I assumed he knew what he was talking about!