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MichaelNZ

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#214227 2-May-2017 19:14
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Can someone explain the difference please?





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  #1774540 2-May-2017 19:48
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Read this for background.

 

Chorus guarantees that with Boost VDSL you'll get 10Mbps minimum. Regular VDSL doesn't have that guarantee.

 

It was a weapon they were prepared to use in case the ComCom regulates their copper prices too low. In theory, Chorus could've throttled your regular VDSL down to dial up speed and force your ISP to pay them more for Boost VDSL.

 

But since the regulated copper price is acceptable to Chorus, they didn't have to pull this stunt. They're not throttling regular VDSL, so there's not much point in paying for Boost.




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  #1774579 2-May-2017 20:33
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I think the wholesale Boost VDSL offering also included wiring.

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  #1774582 2-May-2017 20:37
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I heard a suggestion Boost customers had a higher packet priority. Any feedback?





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  #1774585 2-May-2017 20:40
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What are you wanting feedback on considering Boost was just a proposal that hasn't come into existence......?

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  #1774586 2-May-2017 20:41
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MichaelNZ:

 

I heard a suggestion Boost customers had a higher packet priority. Any feedback?

 

 

"Higher packet priority" than what?

 

 

 

 


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  #1774587 2-May-2017 20:42
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yitz: What are you wanting feedback on considering Boost was just a proposal that hasn't come into existence......?

 

My business is an InspireNet customer and -

 

https://www.inspire.net.nz/products/business.html





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  #1774590 2-May-2017 20:46
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Well that just seems to be Inspire's way of differentiating between their regular offering and one which offers minimum performance.

 

 

It doesn't appear to me to do with Chorus' proposed wholesale offering so you can ignore the above advice.

 
 
 
 

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  #1774593 2-May-2017 20:47
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yitz: Well that just seems to be Inspire's way of differentiating between their regular ADSL and VDSL offering. It doesn't appear to me to do with Chorus' proposed wholesale offering so you can ignore the above advice.

 

I was told by Inspire it had a 10Mbps CIR.





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  #1774595 2-May-2017 20:49
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MichaelNZ:

I was told by Inspire it had a 10Mbps CIR.

Yes edited, seems to be the case. You would need to confirm with Inspire about exactly what it is they are selling.

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  #1774596 2-May-2017 20:52
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yitz: What are you wanting feedback on considering Boost was just a proposal that hasn't come into existence......?

 

Boost looks like a product now.


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  #1774598 2-May-2017 20:54
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Might be worth getting in contact with their rep @jameswatts if you want to know more.

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  #1774612 2-May-2017 21:01
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DarkShadow:

Boost looks like a product now.

Interesting, wasn't aware of that, perhaps it is indeed what is used for Inspire's offering.

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  #1774617 2-May-2017 21:10
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Reading the Chorus "Product Overview" information I can find no mention of this 10Mbps CIR. It merely claims "optimal speed and stability" for Boost.

 

Furthermore, the cost difference is about $3 per month so why the massive retail price difference?

 

Hopefully someone can confirm the situation. If it is really better, then I am willing to pay, but no point if it's just a marketing slogan.





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  #1774627 2-May-2017 21:37
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MichaelNZ:

 

I heard a suggestion Boost customers had a higher packet priority. Any feedback?

 

 

Let's say you have a motorway with a bus lane.

 

The bus lane would get you there faster, only if the regular lanes are congested.

 

If the regular lanes are not congested, you'd get to your destination at the same time in a car or on a bus.

 

Regular VDSL isn't congested so it doesn't matter if Boost has a higher priority or not.


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  #1774654 2-May-2017 21:47
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You would really have to ask Inspire about what benefits there are.

 

 

It really comes back to the 'full speed' debacle which began over a decade ago relating to the ability for RSPs/ISPs to differentiate their offerings beyond 256/128 and 2M/128 etc. That was what led to the Comcom determining that Telecom Wholesale (now Chorus) must offer UBS (now UBA) at unconstrained DSLAM port speeds and the scope of regulation extending to future ADSL2+ and VDSL2 networks.

 


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