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#288823 26-Jul-2021 11:46

I have read abou this earlier today, and there's now a page on the Chorus website: Introduction of a new ONT.

Due to global supply challenges arising from the COVID-19 pandemic, we have become aware of significant risk to our ongoing supply of the current 3rd Generation ONT.

We are proactively working with our partners at Nokia to secure a supply of an alternative ONT which matches or exceeds the key features of the 3rd Gen ONT. We can now confirm that we have agreed to deploy a new 4th Gen ONT (Type 400) as our new standard ONT for all NGA connections. We will continue to deploy Hyperfibre ONT for Hyperfibre connections."

Adoption is predicted for April to June 2022. More details on the link above.

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#2749879 26-Jul-2021 11:52

Looks like there is still some bugs being worked through ... likely solution is a thicker spacer against the wall,... but that will have its own issues..

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/system/files/resources_files/New%20ONT%20Information%20Pack.pdf

"Ethernet ports exit back of the ONT (towards wall). We are working on an install solution and will communicate it
as soon as we can"

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#2749887 26-Jul-2021 12:19

It doesn't inspire loads of confidence if the third and fourth generation models are very similar in design and technology, the third generation won't be fulfilled especially as it hasn't been on the market for overly long.

So saying if the internal wifi (and other normal router services) are provisioned within the ONT, the upward pointing dual antennae will make a difference. As ONTs are generally installed in the worst place for wifi coverage near the floor near on an external wall, I wondered which Einstein designed it with a single antennae pointing further down. The rear facing ethernet ports are a disaster waiting to happen with a home user yanking the unit off the wall to access the ports only to break the fibre.

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#2749888 26-Jul-2021 12:20

wellygary:

Looks like there is still some bugs being worked through ... likely solution is a thicker spacer against the wall,... but that will have its own issues..

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/system/files/resources_files/New%20ONT%20Information%20Pack.pdf

"Ethernet ports exit back of the ONT (towards wall). We are working on an install solution and will communicate it
as soon as we can"

Maybe they'll have to provide elbow adapters, or design their own adapter to fit the whole unit.

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#2749911 26-Jul-2021 13:29

pom532:

wellygary:

Looks like there is still some bugs being worked through ... likely solution is a thicker spacer against the wall,... but that will have its own issues..

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/system/files/resources_files/New%20ONT%20Information%20Pack.pdf

"Ethernet ports exit back of the ONT (towards wall). We are working on an install solution and will communicate it
as soon as we can"

Maybe they'll have to provide elbow adapters, or design their own adapter to fit the whole unit.

You can still buy these:

Cat 5e: https://www.blackbox.com/en-us/store/product/detail/SpaceGAIN-CAT5e-100-MHz-Molded-Angled-Stranded-Ethernet-Patch-Cable-Unshielded-UTP-CM-PVC-RJ45-M-M/EVNSL2xE-xxxx-90xx?item=EVNSL23E-0003-90DD
Cat 6: https://www.blackbox.com/en-us/store/product/detail/SpaceGAIN-CAT6-250-MHz-Molded-Angled-Stranded-Ethernet-Patch-Cable-Unshielded-UTP-CM-PVC-RJ45-M-M/EVNSL2xx-xxxx-90xx?item=EVNSL216-0006-90DD

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#2749943 26-Jul-2021 14:08

One other option is a mounting bracket that extends the ethernet ports to a new location, much like the old copper ITP design.

You'd only need to extend the phone + 2 x RJ45 ports to new jacks which wouldn't be overly complex.

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#2749980 26-Jul-2021 15:21

Groucho:

It doesn't inspire loads of confidence if the third and fourth generation models are very similar in design and technology, the third generation won't be fulfilled especially as it hasn't been on the market for overly long.

So saying if the internal wifi (and other normal router services) are provisioned within the ONT, the upward pointing dual antennae will make a difference. As ONTs are generally installed in the worst place for wifi coverage near the floor near on an external wall, I wondered which Einstein designed it with a single antennae pointing further down. The rear facing ethernet ports are a disaster waiting to happen with a home user yanking the unit off the wall to access the ports only to break the fibre.

Mostly all new builds have the ONT in the garage wall cabinet... therefore having wifi would be a moot point.

Seems like this 4th gen model is being taken on as a need rather than a want.... i.e. not much else choice in the matter if they want to ensure a consistent supply of ONTs.

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#2749995 26-Jul-2021 15:41

Isn't the Hyperfibre ONT called type 400 already? That could cause some confusion.

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#2749997 26-Jul-2021 15:43

Goosey:

Groucho:

It doesn't inspire loads of confidence if the third and fourth generation models are very similar in design and technology, the third generation won't be fulfilled especially as it hasn't been on the market for overly long.

So saying if the internal wifi (and other normal router services) are provisioned within the ONT, the upward pointing dual antennae will make a difference. As ONTs are generally installed in the worst place for wifi coverage near the floor near on an external wall, I wondered which Einstein designed it with a single antennae pointing further down. The rear facing ethernet ports are a disaster waiting to happen with a home user yanking the unit off the wall to access the ports only to break the fibre.

Mostly all new builds have the ONT in the garage wall cabinet... therefore having wifi would be a moot point.

Seems like this 4th gen model is being taken on as a need rather than a want.... i.e. not much else choice in the matter if they want to ensure a consistent supply of ONTs.

Are any RSPs actually offering ONTs in RGW mode anyway???

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#2749999 26-Jul-2021 15:44

wratterus:

Isn't the Hyperfibre ONT called type 400 already? That could cause some confusion.

The Hyperfibre ones are Black (Black is always better isn't it??) .... so probably not too confusing

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#2750102 26-Jul-2021 17:56

wratterus:

Isn't the Hyperfibre ONT called type 400 already? That could cause some confusion.

Yeah, I'm told the 400 might not stick. certainly confuses things.

Still, a new ont and i don't get to ask all the annoying questions about 2x phone ports etc anymore...

Gonna have to come up with harder questions for the folk at chorus this time :P

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#2750115 26-Jul-2021 18:37

Sorry but an ONT that does not profile like the current 200/300 is a fail, if your going to source a new device it should be smaller than all current and have bottom edge ports and no wireless, as in conspicuous as possible, Infact a single ethernet and one pots, nothing more nothing less, same size as the Unifi nano ont sounds good to me, then use type 200 for complex BS3/3a etc.

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#2750120 26-Jul-2021 18:49

How many households will suffer from double NAT.

Is there a switch to make it just an ONT and turn off all the bullshit?

Chorus is advertising , 2gig, 4gig 8gb per second plans and this falls a bit short.

Rear Lan is stupid, how is chorus going to keep the Fibre safe.

Should be smaller, data cabinets etc in new builds are getting smaller, and these onts are getting bigger.

I'd say go back to the drawing board and ask for a smaller unit.

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#2750141 26-Jul-2021 19:41

So for those who have commented on the ont not becoming smaller. There is actually a list of requirements an ont have to be a standard ufb offering in nz.

The split to only 1 phone port for example is already crossing that line a bit...

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#2750157 26-Jul-2021 20:48

Geez thats big and ugly. Why cant Chorus look for something smaller and more discrete? 2 ports max no wifi and no bigger than the size of a typical PDL600 faceplate

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#2750158 26-Jul-2021 20:59

I'd be curious to find out how many households use the wifi feature in the provided ONTs? Most people would turn everything off and use their own router right – or am I simply describing the GZ user base?

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