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#303007 10-Jan-2023 08:22

Is anyone else getting slow speeds with usenet groups?

I was getting 30MB/s up till Jan 1st...nothing was changed or tinkered with on my setup ---then all the sudden on Jan 1 speeds won't go any higher than 2 to 3 MB/s. I was just waiting it out to see if it corrected on its own....but it hasn't.

Speed tests seem fine.

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#3019408 10-Jan-2023 08:36

That's your internet speed, not your Usenet server speed, isn't it?

In other words everything will be slow, not just newsgroups.

What is the internet connection type - 4G/DSL/Fibre etc?

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#3019415 10-Jan-2023 09:07

If its just usenet thats slowed down, could be a routing change thats happened somewhere. Do a trace route to the server and see what you get

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#3019417 10-Jan-2023 09:18

johno1234:

That's your internet speed, not your Usenet server speed, isn't it?

In other words everything will be slow, not just newsgroups.

What is the internet connection type - 4G/DSL/Fibre etc?

I'm on Spark fiber 900/400 plan. I only get around 430Mbps due to the 4 airfiber 5xhd's ... I had to set this up to get it to my rural location. Running through an edgerouter 8 pro. I could try my backup edgerouter X.

From around 2018 till Jan 1st 2023 usenet could and would frequently max out my connection...but after 9 days of waiting patiently for it to fix itself (cause I didn't change anything on my stuff..I didn't touch it cause hey it's been working for years the way it was)...it hasn't.

Usenet is currently only getting 2 to 3 MB/s = 20 to 30 Mbps. Everything else related to the internet is working fine 4k Youtube = fine...Netflix = fine.....Steam game download = fine. Wife not complaining = fine.

I've tried different ports on SABnzbd...tried the 4 different servers they have. Still the same results....tried with VPN...same poor speed results. Tried NZBget.... and get the same poor speed results.

Just to be doubly sure --- I even tried this with my slower backup Starlink connection (it usually comes in at 200 Mbps). Cause hey....maybe it is Spark idk? But even Starlink is giving me the same 20 Mbps on usenet.

But my question was - Is anyone else getting slow speeds with usenet groups? Are you?

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#3019423 10-Jan-2023 09:32

xpd:

If its just usenet thats slowed down, could be a routing change thats happened somewhere. Do a trace route to the server and see what you get

Thank you! I don't think it is on my end or this end ....I am thinking maybe the route has changed or maybe even the server's end.

I've read over at reddit a couple of slow usenet posts. But nothing solid enough for me to figure out if something is messed up with my setup (not sure how it could be my settings) or if others are also experiencing an issue...

I am just a little frustrated with it (usually I can find something and move on from there).

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#3019426 10-Jan-2023 09:40

On spark fiber max, no speed decreases on mine. What usenet service are you using? I use newsdemon. Set to 45 connections. Currently getting 65MB/s

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#3019431 10-Jan-2023 09:59

I did some more searching around /googling and found a mention to try port 80 to get around any shaping.

Port 80 was the only port I hadn't tested --- This is bizarre -put in Port 80 and the speed is now at 120 to 150 Mbps (50 connections).

Change it to a different SSL port 563 and the speed goes down to 20 Mbps again. Port 563 had been working fine....till Jan 1st.

I don't know (and I am no expert)..but it feels like someone along the line is shaping the other ports. It felt like something was holding the speed down....the classic go higher and then down and holds at 20Mbps.

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#3019445 10-Jan-2023 10:17

Ive found 99% of the time when theres problems with speed its the providers servers. if your using US servers see if they have alternative US ones or even EU ones and so on and see if it makes a difference.

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#3019451 10-Jan-2023 10:51

askelon:

Ive found 99% of the time when theres problems with speed its the providers servers. if your using US servers see if they have alternative US ones or even EU ones and so on and see if it makes a difference.

I'll play around with them again later.

Things are getting a little weirder though---

I have a secondary usenet group I have as a backup if the main usenet goes offline (secondary hardly ever gets used). I decided to do a little testing with it. Made it the priority server in SABnzbd.

The secondary usenet server displays the same symptoms as the main one. The secondary usenet server will only give me 20Mbps on port SSL 563 (50 connections) and also...so far on the other ports they say you can use give 20 Mbps. They don't have a port 80..but they do have 8080.

I put 8080 in and boom - 130 to 150 Mbps. Put in 563...20 Mbps.

I don't know what to think....it just seems very odd.

Update - I forgot I had my VPN on ---with VPN and using Port 80 or 8080 as stated above results in speeds of 130 to 150Mbps. When I turn off the VPN the speeds nose dive down to 20Mbps..regardless of the port I use.