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Arnifix

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#318635 5-Feb-2025 15:28
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I'm currently shopping for a new ISP as my current ISP, 2degrees, have increasing the price of my connection, and the performance seems really dodgy.

What do I mean by dodgy? It's inconsistent. Sometimes, no issues, sometimes can't get sites to load. For example, I might try and open an image. Connection times out. I try again, it works instantly. Or it might work slowly. I've tried their router, combined or in isolation, with Google Wifi, Google Nest Wifi, Asus XT8, and currently running Unify kit. Nothing I do with my network seems to address the issues. Sometimes I long for the days of free dialup internet where (after 45 minutes dialing to try and establish a connection) it at least worked well.

 

Now, it may well be a me problem, but regardless, I need a new ISP. So I'm interested in options. And while I can find good data on speeds, and a bit on latency, I haven't been able to find anything that might be considered more in depth. For example, reading other threads here there was some good info on ISPs which peer locally or in AU. But the poster wasn't able to give details as they're in the industry and didn't want to actively promote.

 

So my main question is, is there some kind of a review of ISPs from more than just a speed perspective? Reliability, latency, packetloss, issues with technologies like CGNAT, etc. More than just "how fast/how cheap".

 

Key requirements. Static IP. High reliability. Good download and upload speed (currently using Fibre Max, no real need for HyperFibre). Would especially like a "hobbyist" friendly ISP, as trying to work out why my port forwarding isn't working with 2degrees L1 support has been nightmarish. It would also be ideal if I could bundle mobile phone plans in, otherwise I'll need to find another mobile phone provider.

 

I'm more than willing to spend good money for the right solution, and any info people may be able to share on authoritative sources on these matters would be really helpful. Cheers gang.


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  #3339729 5-Feb-2025 17:03
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I recommend you have a second, hard look, at your network. I am with 2degrees, working from home, gaming and streaming in the evenings and have not noticed anything - and here is my speed test chart:

 





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  #3339740 5-Feb-2025 18:36
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I’d recommend Quic especially since you mentioned Hobbyist. One off fee for static IP too which is nice. They also have a discord where they actively engage with the users.

 

https://account.quic.nz/refer/19099

 

Free setup code: R19099E37JEK

 

I've personally seen NAT Exhaustion occurring on some 2degrees CG-NAT connections that may explain why your internet just suddenly appears to "stop working" - this can be mitigated with a Static IP however this also comes at a cost.





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  #3339742 5-Feb-2025 18:56
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I would assume it's a network issue as well, but the thing is I have effectively replaced my internal network multiple times, with the exception of the ONT. Everything, from routers to cables has been tested and it all seems to work fine. The issue persists even on the Fritzbox provided by 2degrees.

 

The issue I have with speed tests is that they obviously go to a specific site and may not show issues introduced by routing. It tends to be international websites I see unusual behaviour on, but even international speed tests don't show specific issues.

 

 

 

freitasm:

 

I recommend you have a second, hard look, at your network. I am with 2degrees, working from home, gaming and streaming in the evenings and have not noticed anything - and here is my speed test chart:

 

 




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  #3339744 5-Feb-2025 19:02
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Thanks, I will have a look at Quic. The irritating thing is that I have a static IP, and yet port forwarding still won't work right no matter how I configure it on multiple different routers. Sometimes it seems ok, but my outbound IP address is often neither my static IP, nor in the 2d CGNAT range. I have no idea why this would be and 2d were unable to offer any explanation. my friend had a similar issue, but sadly his issue was that they hadn't given him a static IP despite charging him for it.

 

 

 

 

 

idanoo:

 

I’d recommend Quic especially since you mentioned Hobbyist. One off fee for static IP too which is nice. They also have a discord where they actively engage with the users.

 

https://account.quic.nz/refer/19099

 

Free setup code: R19099E37JEK

 

I've personally seen NAT Exhaustion occurring on some 2degrees CG-NAT connections that may explain why your internet just suddenly appears to "stop working" - this can be mitigated with a Static IP however this also comes at a cost.

 


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  #3339748 5-Feb-2025 19:09
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Might be one to escalate to 2D, but I recall a fault quite a while ago where more than one customer was allocated the same IP address at the same time. Not sure which ISP it was, but it had similar symptoms, and was obviously very unusual.


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  #3339770 5-Feb-2025 20:42
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Another for Quic if you are after a hobbiest ISP. There’s a number of Easter eggs on their website which may contain discount codes if you do find them.

 

but agree with @RunningMan - it could be that or their port filtering is enabled in your 2degrees portal that blocks multiple common ports, assuming you’ve got a Static IP. 





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  #3339789 5-Feb-2025 21:58
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+1 for Quic, hit me up on Discord for all the gory details.





I'm a geek, a gamer, a dad, a Quic user, and an IT Professional. I have a full rack home lab, size 15 feet, an epic beard and Asperger's. I'm a bit of a Cypherpunk, who believes information wants to be free and the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. If you use my Quic signup you can also use the code R570394EKGIZ8 for free setup.


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