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Topic # 31940 5-Apr-2009 22:58
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If you haven't heard, kordia may be building a cable that runs from new zealand to sydney which will connect to a new cable to go to the usa. it could be a competitor to the southern cross cable.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10564751

so will this new cable actually bring higher data caps? if so, anyone estimate how big the caps would be?

seeing as though telecom owns part of the southern cross cable which would be a competitor, do you think kordia will block telecom from using the new cable and only allow other isp's like orcon, slingshot etc to use it? i mean why would you want to let a competitor like telecom who partly own the southern cross cable use your new cable?
 if i were kordia i would go look for an overseas investor to help fund this cable and start constructing it early next year seen as though the australian leg of the cable is going to get underway soon. because i don't think the government has the money to help fund it.

this new cable being built could be avoided if the southern cross cable lowered it's data prices because it has spare capacity to do so, but i guess because there's no competition it is not going to be kind.
 if i owned the southern cross cable i would want new zealand to be part of the web 2.0 world so web hosts could setup in new zealand and offer 10,000GB of monthly bandwidth like overseas web hosts do and new zealand could host a large site like facebook even, but currently web hosts in new zealand can't do this because of expensive data costs.

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  Reply # 205463 6-Apr-2009 01:35
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I highly doubt Telecom would even want to use this proposed cable, so your question about blocking access to Telecom is moot.

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  Reply # 205465 6-Apr-2009 02:03
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Telecom will match what ever price the competition will offer but until that happen, they will keep drinking the cream from their network.

 
 
 
 


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Reply # 205467 6-Apr-2009 03:49
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richgamer: seeing as though telecom owns part of the southern cross cable which would be a competitor, do you think kordia will block telecom from using the new cable and only allow other isp's like orcon, slingshot etc to use it? i mean why would you want to let a competitor like telecom who partly own the southern cross cable use your new cable?


Why not? This is the kind of anti-competitive thinking that the governement should be preventing happening with anti-trust laws.




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  Reply # 205472 6-Apr-2009 07:40
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Also the amount of data on S.C. will proportionally reduce once their customers either cut over or hedge across both providers.

Anyone know much bandwidth is actually used on S.C. by Kiwis, compared to the Australians?

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  Reply # 205474 6-Apr-2009 08:18
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am i missing something here? this new cable only goes to AUS SCC goes way further than that so u can't really compare them to each other.

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  Reply # 205477 6-Apr-2009 09:06
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matt45: am i missing something here? this new cable only goes to AUS SCC goes way further than that so u can't really compare them to each other.


The new cable would connect to the PPC-1 (a new cable between Guam and Sydney) offshore. Guam already has huge capacity to Asia and North America.


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  Reply # 205483 6-Apr-2009 09:44
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PEW PEW

This is great news for NZ Broadband. 

Monopoly=status quo.
More choice=good $hit for customers

Stick it to the man.




 


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  Reply # 205503 6-Apr-2009 11:06
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richgamer: so will this new cable actually bring higher data caps? if so, anyone estimate how big the caps would be?


No one is going to be able to tell you that now.

Next time, take half, or double.







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  Reply # 205727 7-Apr-2009 12:44
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That's a fluff article no new information at all, they still need $200 million from somewhere to fund the build.

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  Reply # 205757 7-Apr-2009 15:10
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This is the same Kordia that paid $25m for the goodwill in Orcon, and has more liabilities than assets by about a fact of 3?,
 I hold out little hope of this project ever getting off the ground (under the water) in the current recession.

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  Reply # 207390 16-Apr-2009 21:11
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richgamer:
this new cable being built could be avoided if the southern cross cable lowered it's data prices because it has spare capacity to do so, but i guess because there's no competition it is not going to be kind.


When Kordia announced they were going to build the cable, SCC dropped their pricing by 44%. It happened about the time that Telecom increased their data caps last year.

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