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#70657 28-Oct-2010 09:18

Spotted this today in the Telegraph. Not quite sure why Yorkshire (the equivalent of say Otago for those unfamiliar with UK geography!) is included in the initial rollout but it's still an achievement we probably have 10 years at least to wait for if we live outside Auckland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8089347/Virgin-to-launch-UKs-fastest-broadband.html

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#396684 28-Oct-2010 09:25

http://www.warpspeed.co.nz/

"TelstraClear ... is even more delighted to announce that in some parts of New Zealand the sorts of speeds envisaged by the UFB initiative are already a reality. We are proud to say that our upgraded cable network in Wellington and Christchurch is already capable of running at speeds classed as ultra-fast (i.e. providing downlink speeds of up to 100mbps)."

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#396687 28-Oct-2010 09:28

Geektastic: Spotted this today in the Telegraph. Not quite sure why Yorkshire (the equivalent of say Otago for those unfamiliar with UK geography!) is included in the initial rollout but it's still an achievement we probably have 10 years at least to wait for if we live outside Auckland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8089347/Virgin-to-launch-UKs-fastest-broadband.html

This is upgrading their 50mbps cable network to 100mbps. As has been pointed out Telstraclear has already done this for trial in NZ. And its for those Telstraclear cable subscribers that are....... outside Auckland.

Woo hoo. The UK is catching up to NZ.

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#396688 28-Oct-2010 09:31

Ha - sure.

We all live in cities...........! There's no chance Telstra will be laying cable anywhere round here for at least 10 years I suspect. We don't even get mains water!

The concerning thing is that many businesses in rural areas rely on good broadband yet will be the last to get fast services and so will be disadvantaged.

As a professional photographer, I would love to be able to use online backup and archiving but that simply is not realistic until you get to way faster speeds than we will get here anytime soon.

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#396694 28-Oct-2010 09:41

Geektastic: Ha - sure.

We all live in cities...........! There's no chance Telstra will be laying cable anywhere round here for at least 10 years I suspect. We don't even get mains water!

The concerning thing is that many businesses in rural areas rely on good broadband yet will be the last to get fast services and so will be disadvantaged.

As a professional photographer, I would love to be able to use online backup and archiving but that simply is not realistic until you get to way faster speeds than we will get here anytime soon.

And whats worse - the UFB is aimed at 75% coverage leaving rural NZ out in the cold. The RBI (Rural Broadband Initiative) is woefully underfunded. Rather than spend good taxpayer money on broadband for those that are most economical the Government should be looking at using that $1.5bn to bridge the digital divide. So I sympathise.

Research shows the biggest GDP lift where no broadband has existed before with lower incremental gains by providing faster speeds in areas where it already exists. But never let the facts get in the way of a good (political) story.

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#396707 28-Oct-2010 09:59

That's nothing, look at Korea:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9093991.stm

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#396730 28-Oct-2010 10:44

langers1972: That's nothing, look at Korea:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9093991.stm

Langers - that is seriously depressing when we struggle to get 3 mbs!!

Still, I'm sure the money spent on say hosting the World Cup would not have been better spent on equipping us to do business in the 21st Century......!

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#396739 28-Oct-2010 11:13

Geektastic:
langers1972: That's nothing, look at Korea:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9093991.stm

Langers - that is seriously depressing when we struggle to get 3 mbs!!

Still, I'm sure the money spent on say hosting the World Cup would not have been better spent on equipping us to do business in the 21st Century......!

The average speed in Korea is 12Mbps. NZ at 3.3Mbps (might be 2.9 in the most recent quarter).
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#396780 28-Oct-2010 12:16

Geektastic: Ha - sure.

We all live in cities...........! There's no chance Telstra will be laying cable anywhere round here for at least 10 years I suspect. We don't even get mains water!

The concerning thing is that many businesses in rural areas rely on good broadband yet will be the last to get fast services and so will be disadvantaged.

As a professional photographer, I would love to be able to use online backup and archiving but that simply is not realistic until you get to way faster speeds than we will get here anytime soon.

Compare cable with cable. I am on the TelstraClear 100Mbps trial and it's fantastic.

No cable in Auckland? Blame the council, who blocked cable roll outs years ago.

Outside the cities? I don't think you would find 100 Mbps in the country, not even in the UK.

As said before, at least this time, New Zealand is getting something ahead.

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#396848 28-Oct-2010 14:29

freitasm: Outside the cities? I don't think you would find 100 Mbps in the country, not even in the UK.

Some farmers in NZ do have fibre to the door. Generally it involved them doing their own trenching to attach to a passing cable or in one case I think I read that the cable route actually went through the farm.

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#396876 28-Oct-2010 15:23

Some farmers in NZ do have fibre to the door

Hey I have 180 cores from CityLink, a further 2x180 fromTelecom just outside my front door, but its still to pricey for me to invite them in.

So how many of these farmers have let this fibre in the door?

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#396880 28-Oct-2010 15:31

cyril7:
Some farmers in NZ do have fibre to the door

Hey I have 180 cores from CityLink, a further 2x180 fromTelecom just outside my front door, but its still to pricey for me to invite them in.

So how many of these farmers have let this fibre in the door?

Cyril

Probably less than the number of cores you have going past your door.

I finally found one of the articles thanks to a post on geekzone
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/business/529432

It's something like "a few dozen". There was also a bit of this sort of networking down south but I can't find that article :(

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#396885 28-Oct-2010 15:38

HFC cable in Auckkland was blocked by which council? Telecom started rolling out in North Shore and may have kept going if Telstra-Clear had not abandoned its own plans. On a brighter note, rural broadband should have some quite fast wireless options available.

Time to find a new industry!

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#396893 28-Oct-2010 15:55

webwat: HFC cable in Auckkland was blocked by which council? Telecom started rolling out in North Shore and may have kept going if Telstra-Clear had not abandoned its own plans. On a brighter note, rural broadband should have some quite fast wireless options available.

Manukau, Auckland City and North Shore all indicated that overhead cables would not get resource consent.

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#396905 28-Oct-2010 16:19

Telstra clear applied to the Auckland City Council for overhead cables in Ellerslie and Mt Wellington in 2002.
(NZ Herald 13/3/2002)

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#396907 28-Oct-2010 16:21

NZ Herald article

Mayors vow to foil TelstraClear cable plan
By Angela Gregory
5:01 AM Friday Apr 5, 2002

By ANGELA GREGORY

Political leaders across the Auckland region are horrified by TelstraClear's plans to hang thick black cables off power poles.

Auckland City mayor John Banks says the idea "freaks me out".

The five leaders last night reacted strongly to the proposal, some vowing to fight if the communications company tries to move into their areas.

TelstraClear wants to string up black cables, some as thick as the inside of a toilet roll, in Auckland and Manukau cities so it can introduce high-speed internet, cable television and telephone services.

It has sought resource consent in four areas of Auckland City. Applications will follow in seven other areas and Manukau City, covering Mangere and Otara.

It would mean new overhead cables on industrial and residential streets at a time power-lines company Vector is planning to put its wires underground.

TelstraClear would also have to prune protected trees in some cases so the cables could be hung.

It plans to extend its network to the North Shore and Waitakere.

Mr Banks said last night: "I am committed to the beautification of neighbourhood streets ... The prospect that these ugly cables be strung across Auckland City freaks me out."

He said the council had a programme to bury power, telephone and communication cables, and he would need a lot of convincing that the cables should be hung above the streets. "They're pushing it uphill from the outset."

TelstraClear's public affairs manager, Quentin Bright, said he and two other TelstraClear officials held a meeting with Mr Banks about two months ago to explain their proposal.

Mr Bright said Mr Banks had been delighted with TelstraClear's plans and the economic benefits it would mean for Auckland.

He thought Mr Banks understood the extent of the plans, as the company had made them clear.

TelstraClear had enjoyed a constructive relationship with the council, and the matter obviously needed clarification.

North Shore mayor George Wood said his council also was spending big money to put cables underground, especially in residential areas. "It's crazy that a company like TelstraClear can come along and want to do this," he said.

"I would be very terse if they tried that one on."

He was sure his council members would share his view. "They would be even more against it than I ... and the council on this one would reflect how the community feels."

Waitakere mayor Bob Harvey said: "It's an aerial horror story. I and Waitakere will vigorously oppose it.

"I couldn't imagine anything worse than the skylines of Piha and Karekare strung with black rope."

Manukau City deputy mayor Anne Candy said the proposed unsightly lines went against council policy to encourage underground cabling.
By Angela Gregory | Email Angela

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