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#8324 21-Jun-2006 11:15
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Hi,

I am about to emigrate to Christchurch from the UK.  I have been looking around for a NZ broadband supplier and I see you guys are suffering from the same things we had in the UK until the start of local loop unbundling made the UK national carrier BT get its act in gear!  I have a question i hope you people can help me with:

I understand that woosh works using wcdma (3G) technology.  Can I use a wcdma compatible moble/pda like this one

http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=126948&tab=2

to connect to woosh on the move?   If it does, is there any reason why I could not use a pocket pc soft phone client (or skype for that matter) to make cheap/free voip calls?

Many thanks for your help.

Kind regards,

g7viz  


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  #39177 21-Jun-2006 11:22
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Thats a imate Jasjar and will never work on woosh only Vodafone's 2G/3G network



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#39178 21-Jun-2006 11:24
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Woosh uses a different type of WCDMA, not the same used by mobile operators. You will have to use their own modem. The HTC Universal (if unlocked) will work on Vodafone New Zealad though.







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  #39189 21-Jun-2006 11:39
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Hi,

Thanks for your input.

You guys are missing the point - I am talking about using an always-on internet connection for voip calls.  i.e. use the woosh internet service to carry the calls.  The soft phone is only a sip phone at the end of the day 

Take a look at this little baby

http://www.ipwireless.com/pdfs/prod_voip_handset.pdf

Have you guys seen this yet? 

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g7viz



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#39195 21-Jun-2006 12:13
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Hmmm. No, we are not missing the point. You asked:

I understand that woosh works using wcdma (3G) technology.  Can I use a wcdma compatible moble/pda like this one

http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=126948&tab=2

to connect to woosh on the move?   If it does, is there any reason why I could not use a pocket pc soft phone client (or skype for that matter) to make cheap/free voip calls?


The answer was already pointed out: no, you can not. The Woosh service uses a different WCDMA standard, not the same as the mobile operators. It is optimised for data usage. They even offer VoIP service using a SIP client of their own. And you have to use their own data modem to connect to the network.

The HTC Universal you pointed out is a Pocket PC Phone Edition and it will connnect to WCDMA 2100MHz networks, which is not the same as Woosh. It will work on Vodafone NZ, Vodafone AUS, Vodafone UK, O2 UK, France Telecom and most T-Mobile operations in Europe. It will not work in the USA because they use a different band for UMTS.

If you want to have the HTC Universal connected to Vodafone UMTS It will work. You can even run a SIP client on it as you suggested, but... The Vodafone ToS clearly says VoIP is not allowed on their plans.





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  #39201 21-Jun-2006 12:38
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Hi,

Okay, please accept my apologies if I caused offence by my comment - it wasn't intended - I really do value and appreciate your input.

From the digging around that I have done woosh is based on TD-CDMA technology.  So if you have a handset/pda that supports TD-CDMA can you (in theory) use the woosh network for voip calls on the move?  This could be using the woosh voip service or a third party service.

This would mean you could get broadband, landline and mobile all from woosh and that would be potentially very attractive.

Kind regards,

g7viz


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#39203 21-Jun-2006 12:47
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I think you are thinking TDMA by mistake, which is a very old technology, analog and not compatible with GSM or WCDMA at all...
Woosh uses WCDMA TDD which is a variant of WCDMA and you won't find mobile phones that work on this type of network - only data.





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  #39205 21-Jun-2006 13:08
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Hi,

I could well be wrong (I wouldn't claim to be an expert on mobile technologies) but this link implies there are handsets that have been developed:

http://www.ipwireless.com/solutions/umts_tdd_voip_handset.html

IPWireless is the company who provided the infrastructure and the modems for the woosh network.

Thank-you again for your input.

Kind regards,

g7viz

 
 
 

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  #39208 21-Jun-2006 13:25
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Whilst there have been handsets produced, Woosh does not market them nor intend to put them on their network, the only cpe device they allow is the ones they supply, it does not include the shown handset. Further to that, the Woosh network has no coverage outside certain central areas of the main cities, to rely on a mobile that only works on coverage of <10% of the country is a bit daft.

Oh and finally Woosh own the equipment, only the equipment they supply (an external modem or a pcmcia card) can be used, no handsets, the equipment alwasy remains the property of woosh and must be returned on account closure.

Regards
Cyril

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  #39240 21-Jun-2006 23:45
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Hi,

Thanks again for everybodies comments.

Lets supposed for one moment that the woosh infrastructure does indeed supports these handsets. I appreciate woosh dont currently offer these handsets but what if they did? I personally would be very happy with one phone that I use at home and when I am out and about. A combined broadband, landline and mobile voip would provide woosh with a huge opportunity within the areas that they already operate. If I travel outside the woosh service areas I can always use a pay-as-you-go mobile.

The only issue I can see are possible regulatory restrictions regarding the type of services that can be offered over the radio spectrum allocated to woosh.

Kind regards,

g7viz






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