One thing I've always wanted to know ..

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bastetx

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#93106 14-Nov-2011 16:47

Warning ... Will Robinson Newby on the port bough ..
I hope this hasn't been asked a million times before.

But why is National Traffic charged for in NZ? from what I remember it wasn't years ago when broadband first appeared, [the heady days of 128/256 all you could eat ..], but now it seems to be a means [almost] of making sure you have to buy more datacap ..

Does anyone also think we seriously get a good deal with any isp here? even with the advent of local loop unbundling ? it seems to be a costly exercise being a computer geek here.

Maybe its a population based thing? we simply don't have enough people .. I seek insight into what people really think.

p.s I hope this is in the right place
e.g A mates in Thailand: $25.00/month for all you can eat = broadband

johnr

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#545258 14-Nov-2011 16:52

There is a cost to deliver national traffic

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#545266 14-Nov-2011 17:02

Because its possibly easier to simply meter you for everything.
Because it means you don't have to educate customers what is/isn't national traffic (eg complaints that someone downloaded from a .co.nz site, and cant understand that it can be hosted overseas).
Because there is still a cost to deliver the traffic (as per above)
Because charging for it means more revenue, and businesses are trying to make profits, not be friendly.

Not saying i wouldn't like this myself, but theres some example reasons.

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#545312 14-Nov-2011 19:01

Todays national table from one of my providers has 706 IP address ranges in it.

Sure... you can have...

a. 60 gigs of traffic for $99
b. 10Gb of international traffic and line rate national traffic for $60 + line charges for $150

You'll get much more traffic with option b, in my case I can pull/push ~5Tb if I manage to saturate the link.

But are you happy with APRU ~$210?

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Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

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#545326 14-Nov-2011 19:55

johnr: There is a cost to deliver national traffic

Yes quite a high one too due to having to pay for interconnection with Telstraclear or Telecom in addition to transit to APE/WIX where practically everyone else openly peers.

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#545328 14-Nov-2011 19:58

eXDee: Because its possibly easier to simply meter you for everything.
Because it means you don't have to educate customers what is/isn't national traffic (eg complaints that someone downloaded from a .co.nz site, and cant understand that it can be hosted overseas).
Because there is still a cost to deliver the traffic (as per above)
Because charging for it means more revenue, and businesses are trying to make profits, not be friendly.

Not saying i wouldn't like this myself, but theres some example reasons.

Pre EUBA/ethernet backhaul....

"Because un-metered national would lead to ISP's saturating their handover links from Telecom wholesale due to dimensioning".

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#546254 17-Nov-2011 00:33

Based on what I've heard of the transit costs for some of the larger providers, it would be more likely to see unlimited international before unlimited national.

Having said that most transit providers have been reworking their price charts, and this combined with other factors as Ragnor has mentioned is bringing larger caps to market... slowly.