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# 99569 22-Mar-2012 08:35
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Some more stellar reporting from Stuff, but might be open slather on infringement notices if the PC politics see their way through.  

Movie studios are about to push the Government to lower the fees they have to pay internet providers to out copyright pirates under the so-called "Skynet" law that took effect last year.

The Economic Development Ministry has kicked off a promised review of the $25 fee that rights holders must pay internet providers to send infringement notices to customers accused of piracy under the "three strikes regime".

Tony Eaton, head of the New Zealand branch of the Motion Picture Association, NZFact, said the issue was on his "to do" list next week and it would call for the fees to be lowered or done away with altogether.

The Recording Industry Association, which represents record companies, is understood to have paid internet providers to send out hundreds if not thousands of infringement notices.

However, it is not clear if any internet users have yet received a "third strike" that could see them hauled in front of the Copyright Tribunal and fined up to $15,000.

A Justice Ministry spokesman said it believed a number of people had received second warning notices but no applications had yet been made for enforcement action by the tribunal.

Eaton said members had been dissuaded from requesting any infringement notices because of the cost.

"The fees have always been a concern for us and we will be putting in a submission."

InternetNZ chief executive Vikram Kumar saw no need for the fees to change, saying the ministry's discussion paper acknowledged that internet providers were only being partially compensated for the cost of sending out infringement notices as it stood.

Submissions on the fee review close at the end of next month.

 




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  # 598526 22-Mar-2012 10:02
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Not that I've followed it too closely, but have they reviewed the "3 strikes" aspect of the law? If not why on earth are they reviewing this first, when a UN report signed by 40 nations criticised the 3-strikes part of the law as a violation of human rights?

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  # 598527 22-Mar-2012 10:07
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What could they do if the government just told them to "go jump"?

Not that it'd ever happen for fear of upsetting the Amurrikahns.




 
 
 
 


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  # 598550 22-Mar-2012 10:23
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To me this sounds like: its ok for us (the consumer) to have to put up with their high prices but its not ok for them to have to put up with our high prices.

Sour grapes much?

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  # 598552 22-Mar-2012 10:25
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ISPs are probably already making a loss on the $25 they get paid to go and retrieve all the information required and send out the notice.
Why should they lose more money?

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  # 598557 22-Mar-2012 10:30
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nzkc: To me this sounds like: its ok for us (the consumer) to have to put up with their high prices but its not ok for them to have to put up with our high prices.

Sour grapes much?


Exactly, If the NZ government is going to sell out to the U.S the least we can do is match their prices.

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  # 598560 22-Mar-2012 10:37
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Why not just pass the $25 (x3) fee onto the accused after they have been found guilty after 3 strikes.

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  # 598564 22-Mar-2012 10:40
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kiwitrc: Why not just pass the $25 (x3) fee onto the accused after they have been found guilty after 3 strikes.


I think "fined up to $15,000" probably covers that. 

 
 
 
 


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  # 598578 22-Mar-2012 10:54
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BlueShift:
kiwitrc: Why not just pass the $25 (x3) fee onto the accused after they have been found guilty after 3 strikes.


I think "fined up to $15,000" probably covers that. 


Yeah but the poor starving Movie Studios don't get any of that dosh.

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  # 598590 22-Mar-2012 11:25
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To me this looks like the right holders argument of loosing revenue because of file sharing is sounding very hollow.  Surely, their business case would stack up if paying the $25 enforcement fee would give them many $$$ in return of revenue loss due to file sharing?

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  # 598601 22-Mar-2012 11:42
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scuwp: Some more stellar reporting from Stuff, but might be open slather on infringement notices if the PC politics see their way through.  

Movie studios are about to push the Government to lower the fees they have to pay internet providers to out copyright pirates under the so-called "Skynet" law that took effect last year.

The Economic Development Ministry has kicked off a promised review of the $25 fee that rights holders must pay internet providers to send infringement notices to customers accused of piracy under the "three strikes regime".

Tony Eaton, head of the New Zealand branch of the Motion Picture Association, NZFact, said the issue was on his "to do" list next week and it would call for the fees to be lowered or done away with altogether.


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This was obviously going to happen.  They passed the law they could pass.....and now begins the process of tipping the table ever more toward the people who far too frequently asserts rights over things they don't own at all. 





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  # 598602 22-Mar-2012 11:43
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Kiwipixter: To me this looks like the right holders argument of loosing revenue because of file sharing is sounding very hollow.  Surely, their business case would stack up if paying the $25 enforcement fee would give them many $$$ in return of revenue loss due to file sharing?


Don't let the facts confuse you. They haven't. 




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  # 598606 22-Mar-2012 11:54
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Time to look at us-cert Vulnerability Note VU#723755 and sit outside the ministers office for a while....
Perhaps not.


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  # 598615 22-Mar-2012 12:16
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Welp, looks like ISP costs will be going up, (and seedboxes staying the same).
Doesn't give much incentive to buy stuff legit huh? (If/when possible, which it usually isn't)


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  # 598740 22-Mar-2012 17:07
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Not good...guess who will be paying for them...us




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  # 598819 22-Mar-2012 19:59
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If they do away with the current fee then perhaps ISP's could "do away" with delivering infringement notices or start charging an hourly rate

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