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SirHumphreyAppleby
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  #3177249 3-Jan-2024 09:28
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Rickles:

 

So essentially, an Intel NUC/micro is the desired standard?

 

 

ASUS has taken over the Intel NUC product line. The build quality of the NUC case is better than any of the other units I've used, with the exception of PC Engines which have dead simple all-aluminium cases. I've not had any issues with reliability of cheaper Chinese systems, but these have mostly been low power systems (e.g. the N100 is 6W TDP). When you have a lot of heat to get rid of, the design and build materials will be more important.

 

In addition to the minis, I also have four compute stick style computers. These have also been reliable in 24/7 operations as Kodi front-ends and running digital signage, but they've all been retired now. Given the difference in price, I consider the Chinese clones to be worth the risk.




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  #3177492 4-Jan-2024 10:16
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Beelink is the cheaper alternative to the official "NUC" line that I was thinking of. Especially if you want either AMD with better integrated graphics (e.g. Radeon 780M) or a low power but decent performance CPU (e.g. Intel Alder Lake N100). 


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  #3178578 6-Jan-2024 20:56
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SirHumphreyAppleby:

I have six mini PCs deployed and running 24/7. I suggest buying systems without RAM or storage and using known brands for those parts. The only other caveat is noise... the higher spec systems can run a bit hot due to the limited cooling.


If you're looking for something to run basic tasks or light VM work, the Intel N100 is a good choice. My latest mini PC acquisition is one such box, which I am using for development builds and I am considering moving my e-mail server there and off one of my PC Engines APU2 boards.



A lot of the mini pc manufacturers are using branded RAM and SSDs now.

I had a Topton N100 delivered this week with Hynix ram. I can’t recall what the ssd was but it wasn’t a no name brand.

The one thing it massively benefited from was a repaste. There wasn’t enough paste between the rudimentary heat spreader and the case.

I’m going to be using it to run OPNsense and a couple of containers so it’s a perfect solution.



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  #3178580 6-Jan-2024 21:27
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I have 4 mini pcs which I use for virtual machines. They are all Ryzen based and work great.

I started with 2 Asus PN50s and then the supply ran dry in NZ.

The two newer ones are from Minisforum. One of them has dual m2 ssds. Been very happy with the Minisforum ones and will definitely buy from them again. I generally get the barebones models
to keep them under the threshold for customs.

All but one of my machines have 64gb memory so they are pretty beefy.

Have had no problems, run them 24x7 for several years now.

Take a look at YouTube for ETA Prime he reviews most of the mini pcs.

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  #3178590 6-Jan-2024 23:10
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Been using an Asus PN60 for a few years now as a HTPC running Jellyfin on Ubuntu. Struggles a bit with 4k material and the high-pitched noise from the fan when under load is pretty annoying, especially in the middle of watching a show.

 

Ended up turning off the CPU frequency boost which fixed the fan issue, but there's also an intermittent click that happens in the audio about once every 30 minutes which I haven't been able to fix. It's almost like the audio overloads and something trips, then there's a click and the volume reduces and then comes back up over a couple of seconds. This is audio through a USB-C - > HDMI cable into an amp. Bit of a niche issue but I'm looking to upgrade because of it.

 

So following this thread, interested in a silent replacement since it's going to sit in front of the TV.


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