consolation:

networkn:

I was going to upgrade my 8700K, but I think I'll overclock it to 5Ghz and wait for Alderlake. Wondering if my 8700K with 32GB memory and 650W Corsair Platinum Platinum PSU will handle a 3080 without causing all sorts of bottlenecks?

 

Depends on which games you play, if you're playing 4k AAA, you'll be GPU bound; if you're playing 1440p Fortnite or other esport stuff, maybe - but, will it be enough to impact your experience significantly, that's your call. Quite few YT channels did videos on points where you're getting CPU bound with various cards.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/12/22227040/nvidia-amd-gpu-shortage-rtx-3080-3070-3060-ti-3090-rx-6800-xt

Nvidia, meanwhile, is now saying that supplies of its GPUs to both consumers and partners “will likely remain lean through Q1,” and we’re not even talking about the first quarter of the year — Nvidia’s fiscal Q1 doesn’t end until late April. That’s an awfully long wait. 

Not looking good.

And Gamers Nexus just mentioned today that "NVIDIA Indefinitely Postpones RTX 3080 Ti"

What is the shortage actually of? What is causing supply delays? What component?

networkn:

 

What is the shortage actually of? What is causing supply delays? What component?

 

networkn:

 

What is the shortage actually of? What is causing supply delays? What component?

 

Pretty sure its the GPUs themselves, as there are industry wide bottlenecks there. I believe Nvidia are using Samsung for the Ampere chips, and possibly Samsung can't scale to the same degree TSMC can. TSMC are pretty bottlenecked anyhow with the Xbox Series X and PS5 + Ryzen CPUs.

networkn:

 

What is the shortage actually of? What is causing supply delays? What component?

 

One of the biggest constraints is in logistics. There's a shortage of available container space, so a lot of high value items are shipped by air - adding to cost... but because of COVID there's only a tiny portion of passenger flights that would normally load up empty luggage holds with cargo when not full, so expensive and limited charter flights are required. Remember those videos of cruise ships being scrapped? Pretty new ships for scrapping, eh. Well... passenger liners weren't the only ones that got scrapped, so were many cargo ships, why? Because the price of steel went through the roof making scrapping older ships, that ordinarily still would have an economic life, much (MUCH) more attractive. Why did steel go up in price so much? COVID. A lot of countries pumped money into infrastructure projects to prime their economies, most of all China, which started a bunch of gigantic infrastructure projects to keep its economy from crashing and bring its hinterland more to parity with the coastal regions. So, mid last year the size of the merchant fleet gets slashed; the ships are expensive to keep moored empty and functional, everyone is expecting the global economy to go splat! At the same time, the price of iron is going through the roof, it's a no brainer for ship owners.

But, an unexpected thing happens, a lot of people start working from home and spending savings (plus often govt. stimulus money) on home entertainment. Demand for consumer goods spikes, just when the factories in the manufacturing heartland of the planet transitioned to scaled back production; you get a capacity shortage and a slow ramp up to full production, because everyone is doing it and there is not enough bulk logistics capacity, as it is either spoken for or converted to scrap. Even when production capacity reaches 100%+ the unprecedent surge and an already existing backlog means demand can't be met. When goods are available they are expensive, as they had to be moved by chartered air freight instead of a slow and steady supply by sea freight.

2020

networkn:

 

What is the shortage actually of? What is causing supply delays? What component?

 

its exponentially harder to make the silicon wafers that contain the chips the smaller they go. this means the yields are less so it takes longer to make the same number as previous generations.

not to mention the fact demand is about double was it was in previous years

then add the logistics of getting supplies in and cards out and you have what we have now, pretty much the perfect storm for high end electronic components

Ok so we've been here before... but the 3080 Ti is probably maybe coming possibly in April 😅

Albeit scaled down to 12GB GDDR-6X which sounds logical given the current 6X stock crisis. Which means nVidia will still charge USD999 MSRP for it and get more money for giving less memory... sounds legit.

Looks like PB just had a shipment of ROG Strix 3080s come in as I now have a tracking number for my order. Weird though cause the estimated shipping is April.

No comments on the 3060 series. Looks like a pretty Meh card from the reviews. sort of a 1:$1 performance boost over the 20 series

$330 USD price, but going for $849 here. current exchange rate is about $.75 so thats about $450 NZD add some tax, GST etc and you get no where near $850.

Also the price of the 3060TI's have jumped overnight too.

The cost of gaming stuff now, is so high, that even as a PC gaming enthusiast I am very close to giving up on PC gaming forever. A 3070 as a bare minimum to game at 1440p and 120hz for around $1100, or a 3080 if I want to be able to do this for new games for the next few years, at $1400, I am just not seeing the value proposition. A really decent gaming PC isn't probably going to cost less than $3500.

Console gaming is so convenient, just 'works' and is relatively cost-effective for decent performance.

Jase2985:

 

No comments on the 3060 series. Looks like a pretty Meh card from the reviews. sort of a 1:$1 performance boost over the 20 series

 

12GB for $1K appealing for 3D artists on a budget if they're coming from a 10 series card... other than that its super meh. There are still 3070s around for gamers but sadly $1.5K seems to be the minimum :/

 

Also the price of the 3060TI's have jumped overnight too.

 

Some 3090 models up by $600 to $4K lol. There's plenty in stock if anyone wants one! :)