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Ropata

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#275642 2-Sep-2020 07:10
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I'm hoping people can post the best deals they find for this generation card here when they can be ordered.


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Labrakadabrador
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  #2555375 2-Sep-2020 07:58
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Any idea which retailers will be getting these in? Historically which retailers seem to get them in soonest?

I have pretty much every other part needed to build a PC and am just holding out for a 3080!

I'll keep an eye out and if I find anything report back.

Ropata

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  #2555390 2-Sep-2020 08:21
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Ha ha, same here. My mobo, cpu etc turned yesterday. Yeah, not sure historically, haven't upgraded in 8 years.

 
 
 
 


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  #2555410 2-Sep-2020 09:01
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All specs released, you may have seen this already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGj3gCf3sg

 

The 3080 is a massive disappointment with only a 10GB version, especially because its a downgrade from the previous 80 series with nvLink disabled which even the 2070 Super could do. US$799 sounds fine but in reality that means US$999 with supply limitations.

 

If that wasn't bad enough, for pure marketing reasons nVidia are delaying the 16GB 3070Ti and 20GB 3080Ti, potentially for a whole year... I've lost all interest in the 3080 and what a joke to have such a difference in VRAM and price when they've got the cards already.

 

I've never been a fan of AMD graphics but I hope Big Navi @#$%s the 3080 so nVidia is forced to release the Ti's early.


Labrakadabrador
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  #2555416 2-Sep-2020 09:07
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but everything I've read about VRAM 10gb I'd that it's only a problem if you're playing at 4K60. Anyone playing at 1440p should be absolutely fine.

Even then 4k gamers should be set for at least a couple of years until the "next gen" of games pushed by the new consoles are developed.

It will be interesting to see benchmarks and reviews but I'm still hyped. This is my first PC build and was about to pull the trigger on a 2070 super last month. Glad I've waited it out.

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  #2555420 2-Sep-2020 09:18
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Labrakadabrador: Any idea which retailers will be getting these in? Historically which retailers seem to get them in soonest?

I have pretty much every other part needed to build a PC and am just holding out for a 3080!

I'll keep an eye out and if I find anything report back.

 

 

 

Im super pumped for these new cards! the 3070 and 3080 sound awesome. I'm leaning towards the 3070 right now. Maybe the benchmarks for the 3080 can persuade me to spend the extra $$$ lol. 





http://www.speedtest.net/result/7315955530.png


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  #2555429 2-Sep-2020 09:23
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Good thing I waited to build a VR rig.  Looking forward to buying a dedicated GPU for the first time ever  :)


arcon
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  #2555449 2-Sep-2020 09:52
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Labrakadabrador: Forgive me if I'm wrong but everything I've read about VRAM 10gb I'd that it's only a problem if you're playing at 4K60. Anyone playing at 1440p should be absolutely fine.

 

... computers have more uses than just games, 10GB in 2020 is a bit of a joke for anything to do with 3D, simulation, GPU rendering, compositing, mining to name a few.


 
 
 
 


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  #2555454 2-Sep-2020 10:10
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Having skipped the previous generation of GPU's I'm looking forward to the upgrade. It looks like a significant performance jump over the 20XX series let alone older cards. Digital Foundry has a reasonably good hands on video.


Labrakadabrador
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  #2555506 2-Sep-2020 11:21
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arcon:

Labrakadabrador: Forgive me if I'm wrong but everything I've read about VRAM 10gb I'd that it's only a problem if you're playing at 4K60. Anyone playing at 1440p should be absolutely fine.


... computers have more uses than just games, 10GB in 2020 is a bit of a joke for anything to do with 3D, simulation, GPU rendering, compositing, mining to name a few.



Fair points. I guess I was coming at it with a more "Game Centric" viewpoint rather than rendering etc. I'm sure there will be AIBs that push that number higher than 10gb though. So some aftermarket 3080s should be able to compete in that area.

As an update I've emailed a couple vendors:
- PB tech keeping schtum. Say no info on pre-ordered or stocking. Just "keep an eye on the website for the next few weeks"
- 1st Wave are estimating early October for stock but nowhere to register interest
- Computer Lounge have a registration page and list ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte for stocking alerts.

Have also emailed Paradigm PCs and Mightyape. Will keep you all updated.

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  #2555517 2-Sep-2020 11:35
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If the 2000 series launch is anything to go by it will be end of sept/oct before cards go on sale. 

 

But of course you want to wait for the partner cards to release which is up to 4-6 weeks later. 

 

Personally id not be buying the card straight away and wait for proper reviews to come out, I also remember that they had some RAM issues on the early model cards too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Labrakadabrador
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  #2555527 2-Sep-2020 11:44
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At this point I'm wandering whether to just buy a super cheap GPU to have a functional PC, play some super old / low demand Indies for a while and reassess in a month.

But that's probably $200 extra I'll be spending on what is already a slightly inflated budget for my setup...

Basically I have a problem with waiting for things. 😂

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  #2555530 2-Sep-2020 11:48
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arcon:

 

... computers have more uses than just games, 10GB in 2020 is a bit of a joke for anything to do with 3D, simulation, GPU rendering, compositing, mining to name a few.

 

 

The application areas you specify are not the target market for the RTX 30xx cards, they are aimed at the gaming market, "According to Nvidia, the GeForce RTX 3080 is capable of providing a perfect 60 frames per second gaming experience at 4K even with ray tracing enabled."

 

If you want to do things like "3D, simulation, GPU rendering, compositing, mining", then I'd suggest you should be looking at an A100 type card. Sure, it'll cost heaps more money, but think of the contribution you'll be making to Nvidia's shareholder returns ;)
Or maybe a pair of RTX 3090's with SLI interconnect ('only' $US79.99)


SpartanVXL
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  #2555533 2-Sep-2020 11:52
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Digital foundry pre-review of the 3080 performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD01yUQdVA

On average 80% faster than a 2080 in regular, up to 100% in RT scenarios.

3070 seems to be the winner as it’s coming in to replace the 2080ti.

The low vram has popped up as a complaint, seems it might be offset with newer compression that nv is using. It does seem that if you really need the memory you’re expected to step up to 3090 tier.

Overall it’s pretty good, people buying 2070s for around $900-1k nzd have a replacement at 2080ti level. Not so great for anyone who bought a 2080ti recently.

Lower end will have to wait it seems for 3060 or equivalent from AMD

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  #2555547 2-Sep-2020 12:10
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I recently built with a 5700xt and will be definitely upgrading once the new cards come out.  I'm eagerly awaiting to see what AMD's response is...I've seen a few reddit posts speculating that Nvidia caught wind of what AMD were up to, which could explain why there's such a massive performance increase between the 20XX and 30XX cards.

 

 

 

Unfortunately I think this is going to cripple the secondhand market!


Dunnersfella
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  #2555554 2-Sep-2020 12:15
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Has anyone said what the new cards can output via HDMI?

 

24Gbps? 40Gbps? 48Gbps?


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