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dudalemon

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#210429 27-Mar-2017 09:50
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I was wanting to get some opinions on putting an SSD into a Macbook.

 

My lovely mother has a Macbook pro from 2010 and the HDD is failing on it. (It hangs very often when just opening applications etc)

 

Research has been done so compatibility is not an issue.

 

 

 

Macbooks are popular because you can just close the lid and put them into sleep mode and continue the next day by just opening the lid.

 

SSD's however are not created for sleep mode.

 

 

 

So I've bought the MX300 for her and it will be arriving soon, my question is, REALISTICALLY will it do too much damage if she continues using it by closing the lid when done? I get that it takes 30secish to fully load up from shutdown but she tends to leave work and then continue the next day hence asking her to shutdown everytime is not really easy.


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  #1748540 27-Mar-2017 09:51
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I never had any issues with an SSD in my old 2010. IIRC there was a bit of software to enable trim support, but other than that, it worked out of the box. I hardly ever shut it down, just closed the lid. 




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  #1748546 27-Mar-2017 10:17
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What do you mean "SSDs aren't made for sleep mode". Are you meaning regarding power usage? Surely the computer just wouldn't give the drive any power when it's sleeping?


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  #1748552 27-Mar-2017 10:30
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timmmay:

 

What do you mean "SSDs aren't made for sleep mode". Are you meaning regarding power usage? Surely the computer just wouldn't give the drive any power when it's sleeping?

 

 

 

 

They recommend to turn sleep mode off on desktops because low powered state mode is unhealthy for SSD




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  #1748556 27-Mar-2017 10:36
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Why would a hard drive or SSD need / be given any power when the computer is sleeping?


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  #1748557 27-Mar-2017 10:38
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dudalemon: They recommend to turn sleep mode off on desktops because low powered state mode is unhealthy for SSD

 

 

Who is "they"? Apple supplies virtually every computer with an SSD and obviously sleep mode works. I put an SSD in my 2011 machine and had no issues.


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  #1748559 27-Mar-2017 10:44
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Does the 2010 model have an internal DVD?  Used to be you'd buy a mounting tray and install the SSD where the optical drive was, then clone the original drive onto the SSD and use the original drive as extended storage.  That was because the original drive was locked to the bay from memory.  There's no need to do any software hacks to get it working in macOS though.  The OS handles SSD just fine.


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  #1748566 27-Mar-2017 10:54
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gehenna:

 

Does the 2010 model have an internal DVD?  Used to be you'd buy a mounting tray and install the SSD where the optical drive was, then clone the original drive onto the SSD and use the original drive as extended storage.  That was because the original drive was locked to the bay from memory.  There's no need to do any software hacks to get it working in macOS though.  The OS handles SSD just fine.

 

 

 

 

I can't just replace it with the SSD and do a fresh install from CD like windows? (everything is already backed up). 

 

Does Apple have a clone feature on it or is it a third party app?


 
 
 

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  #1748601 27-Mar-2017 11:14
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  #1748609 27-Mar-2017 11:28
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dudalemon:

 

gehenna:

 

Does the 2010 model have an internal DVD?  Used to be you'd buy a mounting tray and install the SSD where the optical drive was, then clone the original drive onto the SSD and use the original drive as extended storage.  That was because the original drive was locked to the bay from memory.  There's no need to do any software hacks to get it working in macOS though.  The OS handles SSD just fine.

 

 

 

 

I can't just replace it with the SSD and do a fresh install from CD like windows? (everything is already backed up). 

 

Does Apple have a clone feature on it or is it a third party app?

 

 

I used a cheap external USB2 holder to place the SSD and allow the cloning to happen. It's a standard feature of MACOS, and works brilliantly. Our 2010 Macbook white runs amazing compared to having the HD... dont even need extra ram, and its running Sierra without a hitch





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  #1748613 27-Mar-2017 11:31
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dudalemon:

 

 

 

They recommend to turn sleep mode off on desktops because low powered state mode is unhealthy for SSD

 

 

Who recommend?  I'm 100% sure this is bunk.


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  #1748659 27-Mar-2017 12:58
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SuperDuper! is the app to use for cloning.  What I'm saying is check if your model is the one that won't let you use a 3rd party disk in the primary slot or not.  If not you'll need to get a disk caddy and install it in the optical bay.  


  #1748704 27-Mar-2017 14:09
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ubergeeknz:

 

dudalemon:

 

 

 

They recommend to turn sleep mode off on desktops because low powered state mode is unhealthy for SSD

 

 

Who recommend?  I'm 100% sure this is bunk.

 

 

i agree

 

who is "they" you speak of

 

do you have any likes to support your comments?

 

in my current laptop which i have had for about 27 months i have power cycled/slept it 1411 times (about 1.7 times per day) it gets put to sleep every evening.

 

its been running for 9744 hours (406 days) so about 12h per day since i got the laptop. its currently used 6% of its estimated lifetime use (writes)


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