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timmmay

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#306181 3-Jul-2023 12:04
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I purchased the ADATA SU650 512GB M.2 Internal SSD for my Raspberry Pi, to work with a Argon One M.2 SSD case.

 

What I'm wondering is if it will work in my Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AX motherboard in the second M.2 slot. I figure I'll put it in there and run some tests, make sure it's working properly, as I don't know how to run that kind of check on Linux. I have software that will write to the whole disk, then read it back, to check it's working reliably. I don't mind that it will put a small amount of wear on the SSD to run the test.

 

The SSD is "M. 2 2280 SATA III M+B Keys"

 

The motherboard supports "1 x M.2 connector (M2B_SB), integrated in the Chipset, supporting Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SSDs".

 

 

 

My reading suggests that the SSD supports both M and B keys, and the motherboard supports M keys, both support 2280, so it should work. Is that correct? I don't want to try to fit it and break the motherboard or the SSD.


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  #3099026 3-Jul-2023 13:09
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with m2 drives, there are 2 things you need, the key type - ie m or b or m/b and then there are 2 type, either NVMe or SATA, look ing at the drive, it the SATA version, so your mother needs to support SATA m.2 drives, looking at the spec it say 

 

 

 

1 x M.2 connector (M2A_CPU), integrated in the CPU, supporting Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SSDs:
- 3rd Generation AMD Ryzen™ processors support SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSDs
- 3rd Generation AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Graphics processors support SATA and PCIe 3.0 x4/x2 SSDs
1 x M.2 connector (M2B_SB), integrated in the Chipset, supporting Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SSDs:

 

 

 

I think the M.2 connector (M2A_CPU) is the NVMe type, and 1 x M.2 connector (M2B_SB) is the SATA type, so your motherboard can have 1 NVMe and 1 SATA M.2 type drives in it.

 

 




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  #3099031 3-Jul-2023 13:16
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Nice, thanks bagheera. I already have an NVMe SSD in the A slot, so it sounds like this other slower SSD will be fine in the second slot. Thanks again 😀


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  #3099388 3-Jul-2023 22:57
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The photo clearly shows the SSD is B+M key, and it says it is SATA (not NVMe).  The Pi case says it works with B key or B+M key and needs a SATA drive.  So it is compatible.

 

This guide from Wikipedia shows the keying:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#/media/File:M2_Edge_Connector_Keying.svg




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  #3099420 4-Jul-2023 07:25
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fe31nz:

 

The photo clearly shows the SSD is B+M key, and it says it is SATA (not NVMe).  The Pi case says it works with B key or B+M key and needs a SATA drive.  So it is compatible.

 

This guide from Wikipedia shows the keying

 

 

Yeah, I know that. That's why I purchased it. That wasn't my question. bagheera understood my question and answered it above.


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  #3099725 4-Jul-2023 15:41
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@bagheera I think we got it backwards.

 

The SSD arrived. I fitted the new SSD in the M2B_SB / second M.2 socket, turned it on, the computer made booting noises but nothing showed on the screen. I moved the graphics card from slot PCIEX4 to another slot because the manual says "The M2B_SB connector shares bandwidth with the PCIEX4 slot. The PCIEX4 slot will become unavailable when an SSD is installed in the M2B_SB connector". Now the computer boots.

 

Unfortunately, neither the BIOS or Windows shows the new SSD. 

 

The motherboard manual says it supports:

 

  • 1 x M.2 connector (M2A_CPU), integrated in the CPU, supporting Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SSDs: 3rd Generation AMD Ryzen™ processors support SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSDs
  • 1 x M.2 connector (M2B_SB), integrated in the Chipset, supporting Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SSDs: support PCIe 3.0 x4/x2 SSDs

I'm thinking that this means the M2A slot that my main SSD is in supports either SATA or PCIe drives, whereas the M2B slot supports only PCIe drives. A bit of reading suggests an M.2 drive can be SATA or PCIe, NVME runs over PCIe.

 

I think if I swapped the drives between the slots both would work, but I don't think I want to mess with it that much. I'll just wait until the new Raspberry Pi turns up, put the new SSD in that, and test it there.


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  #3099727 4-Jul-2023 15:47
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Yeah, M.2 are a mess to try and work out if they will work or not for your pc, wish they were like M.2 = Sata, M.3=NVMe would make it alot easier to work out - would also help if motherboard manual would not say 1 x M.2 connector (M2A_CPU) - how about M.2 NVMe only etc. 


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  #3099733 4-Jul-2023 16:00
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A little reading and things make a bit more sense. M.2 is the physical socket. The others are a mix of bus and protocol. If you don't look at the area regularly it's easy to forget or not understand exactly what each is.


 
 
 

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  #3099898 4-Jul-2023 19:48
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@bagheera it occurred to me that I could use the Argon One case as a USB adapter for the drive for my PC, which worked 🙂 It's doing about 400MB/sec which is pretty good, I can test the SSD copying and verifying with Teracopy and testing with chkflsh memory card testing software.


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yeah, I have got myself one of these https://www.rubbermonkey.co.nz/Sabrent-USB-3-2-Type-C-Tool-Free-Enclosure-for-M-2-PCIe-NVMe-and-SATA-SSDs as it covers 99% of M.2 drives, also got a usb - c to usb-a cable to cover none c pc, works very well, only issue is my work mate keep boring it as they need to get info off a m.2 from a dead laptop / pc.


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