Is it unusual for no stores to have any GPU's over 8gb?

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#318239 29-Dec-2024 14:07

I was looking around at some nz stores online, and noticed none of them had any video cards over 8gb for sale (maybe the odd hilariously high priced 4090 that hadn't sold). I know theirs a new series coming out soon, but I can;t recall it ever been this sparse in options. When I watch reviews on youtube about cards, the cards they suggest have been out of stock for years in some cases.

Are we Russia all of a sudden?

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#3325895 29-Dec-2024 14:12

If I understand correctly, some of the newer cards are more efficient and don't actually need as much RAM.

Additionally, with the economy being a bit tighter at the moment stores may be reducing their stock levels of slower selling items to reduce debt or have a little more cash in the bank. Graphics cards over 8Gb are probably not fast sellers and so the retailer feels a little safer ordering from the distributor only on demand.

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#3325898 29-Dec-2024 14:19

Dynamic:

If I understand correctly, some of the newer cards are more efficient and don't actually need as much RAM.

Nope, they still need the RAM for processing game textures, especially at 4K extreme/ultra setting of some of the latest titles

Id say its because NVIDIA have the release of the 5000 series early next year and they will not be wanting to order "older" stock till they see how the new release pans out in the reviews.

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#3325905 29-Dec-2024 14:43

Dynamic:

If I understand correctly, some of the newer cards are more efficient and don't actually need as much RAM.

Additionally, with the economy being a bit tighter at the moment stores may be reducing their stock levels of slower selling items to reduce debt or have a little more cash in the bank. Graphics cards over 8Gb are probably not fast sellers and so the retailer feels a little safer ordering from the distributor only on demand.

Hmmm, well, I don't think they are ever going to sell any of those 8gb cards. I think maybe they bought a ton of them at the start and have become stuck with them - the higher models have sold, and sold out. I dread to think how many 4060's are piled up in warehouses haha.

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#3325968 29-Dec-2024 15:46

CrushKill:

I was looking around at some nz stores online, and noticed none of them had any video cards over 8gb for sale (maybe the odd hilariously high priced 4090 that hadn't sold). I know theirs a new series coming out soon, but I can;t recall it ever been this sparse in options.

Nah this is normal, both Nvidia and AMD have been winding down their current series.

Nvidia cut production awhile ago, both companies have learned having current generation cards on the shelf, when next generation drop, the value isn't there to go for the next gen cards when the performance is 5-10%.

As someone who games at 4k, I have had a few games go up to 12 GB allocation on my 7900XTX. there are a lot that however on the 8GB.

So I can easily understand cards throttling when they hit their cap, Ray Tracing is a bit of a Vram hog.

CrushKill:Hmmm, well, I don't think they are ever going to sell any of those 8gb cards.

Oh they will just put them in SI pre-builds and they will get snapped up so fast, I saw a lot of system builders put the 3060 8GB card in builds and they sold like the rest.

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#3326004 29-Dec-2024 19:13

Nvidia need to justify a huge price increase for the next generation of cards and an important part of that is not having any real competing stock of the older models available.

Expect the 5080 to be about $3k each and the 5090 to be knocking on $4500

Because... um, because. Yeah. I don't really know.

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(ps. I do know, it's because we bought the 40 series cards at a huge markup over the 30 series... Any public company is stupid for not charging what the market will bear)

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#3326087 29-Dec-2024 22:29

Intel are finally arriving at the party, the B580 is 12GB min and performance between the Nvidia 4060 and 4070, will be interesting to see what the B7xx brings.

Very intesting time for 1440p 144fps gaming, but I don't expect much challenge to the Nvidia 5080/5090 for 4k

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#3326089 29-Dec-2024 22:47

8gb is just not enough anymore. This should be reserved for the low end cards. Many games now regularly use more and it's only going to go up. I've got a 16gb 6800xt and see 10-12gb used in cyberpunk high 1440p.
16gb should be mid range minimum
24gb+ for high end 5080

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#3326092 30-Dec-2024 00:57

Talkiet:

(ps. I do know, it's because we bought the 40 series cards at a huge markup over the 30 series... Any public company is stupid for not charging what the market will bear)

It's even more so because of the AI boom. They can just about name their price for GPUs.

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#3326093 30-Dec-2024 05:56

8gb is horrible nowadays. It was bad back then but way worse now. FPS just gets gimped by the damn VRAM buffer.

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#3326167 30-Dec-2024 12:32

Sinuation:

8gb is horrible nowadays. It was bad back then but way worse now. FPS just gets gimped by the damn VRAM buffer.

not it's not, still more than acceptable for 1080p and some 1440p titles, it also depends on the type or game, a fast-paced FPS that you want high frame rates isn't going to tax the VRAM like a open world single player game will where you will trade FPS for enhanced graphics because 90FPS is fine

Have a watch of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4En-2PzOU

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#3326580 31-Dec-2024 15:28

There's also no stock of good gaming CPUs like the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D currently either, combination of November and December sales and next gen coming. 9800X3D is out but availability is not there yet, computer lounge is saying >10th Jan.

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#3326638 31-Dec-2024 17:11

Theres a rumour nvidia is going to do texture AI upscaling with the 5xxx series, possibly a reduction in how much total vram is needed.

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#3326648 31-Dec-2024 18:59

SpartanVXL: Theres a rumour nvidia is going to do texture AI upscaling with the 5xxx series, possibly a reduction in how much total vram is needed.

DLSS was one of the reasons that Nvidia said they didn't need as much memory on current gen cards. Upscaling requires less memory.

At least that was my understanding from the time when they announced cards with 8GB memory and people gasped in horror.

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#3326649 31-Dec-2024 19:20

networkn:

SpartanVXL: Theres a rumour nvidia is going to do texture AI upscaling with the 5xxx series, possibly a reduction in how much total vram is needed.

DLSS was one of the reasons that Nvidia said they didn't need as much memory on current gen cards. Upscaling requires less memory.

At least that was my understanding from the time when they announced cards with 8GB memory and people gasped in horror.

It requires the amount of memory for the resolution its being up-scaled from, ie 1080p

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#3326657 31-Dec-2024 20:15

SpartanVXL: Theres a rumour nvidia is going to do texture AI upscaling with the 5xxx series, with a significant increase in profit margin.

FTFY

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