Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




Mad Scientist
20463 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2790

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

# 251622 3-Jul-2019 12:57
Send private message quote this post

APparently in response to AMD's Radeon cards about to be released ...

 

in the US it will sell for the same price as the current cards so it's a free upgrade 





Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
20421 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6260

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2269260 3-Jul-2019 13:02
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Free upgrade? No, if you have to pay for it, then it's just a better value upgrade. 

 

Unless you can walk in with one eligble card and walk out with the new one at no cost, it's not "free" as such :) 

 

edit: Better value is still better though.

 

 




Mad Scientist
20463 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2790

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2269305 3-Jul-2019 13:33
Send private message quote this post

if you haven't bought one you will get a free upgrade, but yeah if you bought one then you won't 





Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.


 
 
 
 


20421 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6260

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2269307 3-Jul-2019 13:43
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Batman:

 

if you haven't bought one you will get a free upgrade, but yeah if you bought one then you won't 

 

 

Neither way will you be getting a free upgrade. They have EOL one range and bought in a more powerful at the same price. You could apply your logic to any next gen product that is introduced at the same price point.

 

 


3921 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 269

Trusted

  # 2269308 3-Jul-2019 13:46
3 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

It is not a free upgrade if you have to pay again to get the new model. It is like saying every new iPhone release every year is a free upgrade because it sells for same price as last years model..





Do whatever you want to do man.

  

200 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 70


  # 2269311 3-Jul-2019 13:48
Send private message quote this post

Until we see what the AIB partners are charging for theirs here, I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they used it to bump up the price slightly in our market. I will be happy to be proven wrong though.

 

Performance uplift model-to-model is good though, seems like they have effectively just bumped each card to the next rung up the ladder. Sucks if you already bought the slow version though.

 

Clearly Nvidia is worried about Navi, so it makes me more curious how good Navi will be, unlike the previous lackluster releases.


20421 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6260

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2269352 3-Jul-2019 13:55
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

There was an internal memo at Intel leaked a few weeks ago regarding the threat that Intel believes AMD now poses to them. It was reasonably clear that AMD may outperform Intel in some product ranges this year and perhaps next gen, and what Intel expects it's party line response to be (taking the focus off raw performance stats and focusing instead on feature sets that AMD's processors don't have or are behind in). 

 

Generally, companies will have 3-4 Generations of products in the pipeline and drip feed them to the market to maximise the sales, and I expect Intel may go ahead and skip it's following generation, and move to the generation beyond this, to gain performance lead again. They will take a hit on revenue to do this, but in reality have just shortened the pipeline somewhat in the short to medium term.

 

 

 

All in all I expect it to be largely to the benefit of the consumer, and we may find that instead of the incremental processing speed upgrades we have been getting for the last 10-15 years, we may see some double digit boosts within a single generation.

 

 


28 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  # 2273772 10-Jul-2019 10:11
Send private message quote this post

Anyone have info on when these 'super' cards might be available in New Zealand?
I'm keen to see pricing on these vs the new Navi cards as well as seeing if the existing 2070 will see a price drop until they clear existing stock.

 
 
 
 


dt

451 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 83


  # 2273888 10-Jul-2019 11:46
Send private message quote this post

networkn:

There was an internal memo at Intel leaked a few weeks ago regarding the threat that Intel believes AMD now poses to them. It was reasonably clear that AMD may outperform Intel in some product ranges this year and perhaps next gen, and what Intel expects it's party line response to be (taking the focus off raw performance stats and focusing instead on feature sets that AMD's processors don't have or are behind in). 

 

Generally, companies will have 3-4 Generations of products in the pipeline and drip feed them to the market to maximise the sales, and I expect Intel may go ahead and skip it's following generation, and move to the generation beyond this, to gain performance lead again. They will take a hit on revenue to do this, but in reality have just shortened the pipeline somewhat in the short to medium term.

 

 

 

All in all I expect it to be largely to the benefit of the consumer, and we may find that instead of the incremental processing speed upgrades we have been getting for the last 10-15 years, we may see some double digit boosts within a single generation.

 

 

 

 

Wish I bought some AMD stock back when they released Ryzen.. their stock was as little as $2.50 USD in 2016.. now their stock is $33 USD and re quickly approaching intel stock prices !

17 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 8
Inactive user


  # 2273928 10-Jul-2019 12:27
Send private message quote this post

It would be lovely if Nvidia let people send in there old RTX card for a free upgrade to a super card..

 

I can't see many people buying these if they already have a RTX card.

 

Next year will be interesting once Intel come to the party with there lineup.


11 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  # 2273957 10-Jul-2019 12:57
Send private message quote this post

Batman:

 

APparently in response to AMD's Radeon cards about to be released ...

 

in the US it will sell for the same price as the current cards so it's a free upgrade 

 

 

 

 

I learned a long time ago that nothing is free.


200 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 70


  # 2273962 10-Jul-2019 13:20
Send private message quote this post

dellor:

 

It would be lovely if Nvidia let people send in there old RTX card for a free upgrade to a super card..

 

I can't see many people buying these if they already have a RTX card.

 

Next year will be interesting once Intel come to the party with there lineup.

 

 

Unfortunately that is the flip-side to AMD stepping up its competition v. Nvidia. The Super range is all about staying competitive with AMDs Navi products, so they only care about your money if you are at risk of spending it on Team Red. Hate to say it, but if you already bought an RTX 2060/2070/2080 you are SOL.

 

And since they already have the not insignificant task of clearing out their current supply of cards, which given the 5700/XT seems to be better or equal at the same price point, they are gonna have to start making price cuts to shift units.

 

I would hope that while Chipzilla has been dragging the chain on the CPU side of things, they are ready for a 3 way fight with AMD and Nvidia when they launch. But yeah, guess we will see.


8659 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2978

Lifetime subscriber

  # 2273964 10-Jul-2019 13:27
Send private message quote this post

GlacialPace: Anyone have info on when these 'super' cards might be available in New Zealand?
I'm keen to see pricing on these vs the new Navi cards as well as seeing if the existing 2070 will see a price drop until they clear existing stock.

 

they already are

 

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER Gaming OC 8GB Graphics Card  = $ 819 .00

 

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING OC 8GC Graphics Card  = $ 849 .00


17 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 8
Inactive user


  # 2273967 10-Jul-2019 13:31
Send private message quote this post

I don't really follow AMD but are the new Radeon cards better then the RTX cards by nvidia prompting them to bring out the Super range?

 

If so that's got to be a first Nvidia always had more powerful cards then AMD...


538 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 119


  # 2273969 10-Jul-2019 13:35
Send private message quote this post

dellor:

 

I don't really follow AMD but are the new Radeon cards better then the RTX cards by nvidia prompting them to bring out the Super range?

 

If so that's got to be a first Nvidia always has more powerful cards then AMD...

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't say better, but they are competitive and and better "value" in the price range they are competing in.  


 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Dunedin selects Telensa to deliver smart street lighting for 15,000 LEDs
Posted 18-Jul-2019 10:21


Sprint announces a connected wallet card with built-in IoT support
Posted 18-Jul-2019 08:36


Educational tool developed at Otago makes international launch
Posted 17-Jul-2019 21:57


Symantec introduces cloud access security solution
Posted 17-Jul-2019 21:48


New Zealand government unveils new digital service to make business easier
Posted 16-Jul-2019 17:35


Scientists unveil image of quantum entanglement
Posted 13-Jul-2019 06:00


Hackers to be challenged at University of Waikato
Posted 12-Jul-2019 21:34


OPPO Reno Z now available in New Zealand
Posted 12-Jul-2019 21:28


Sony introduces WF-1000XM3 wireless headphones with noise cancellation
Posted 8-Jul-2019 16:56


Xero announces new smarter tools, push into the North American market
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:20


New report by Unisys shows New Zealanders want action by social platform companies and police to monitor social media sites
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:09


ASB adds Google Pay option to contactless payments
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:05


New Zealand PC Market declines on the back of high channel inventory, IDC reports
Posted 18-Jun-2019 17:35


Air New Zealand uses drones to inspect aircraft
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:39


TCL Electronics launches its first-ever 8K TV
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:18



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.