2C wall socket connection for internet?

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danepak

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#213820 13-Apr-2017 18:35

Hi,
My mate asked the installer to put a wall connection in, so he could plug an Ethernet cable in, for smart TV connectivity.
We've just noticed that the wall socket says 2C. Isn't that a phone socket?
From what I understand, that's for a BT cable, right?
That won't work for Ethernet connection, will it?

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#1764029 13-Apr-2017 19:34

That's a two-wire BT socket. It's perfectly usable for an xDSL signal (if that's what it is wired to), but not as universal as an RJ45...

It really depends what it's wired to - what type of cable, and what is at the other end of the cable?

Oh, and no, you couldn't run ethernet through it.

danepak

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#1764034 13-Apr-2017 20:05

Thanks for your reply.

He has had fibre installed fairly recently (well after that these sockets were installed).

I assume that this won't work then? He won't have fibre to the TV, if a cable is connected between the socket and the TV.

RunningMan

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#1764036 13-Apr-2017 20:11

The socket itself is no good for ethernet - you need to find out what the cable is connected to the back, where that cable goes, and what is on the other end.

froob

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#1764037 13-Apr-2017 20:14

No, it won't work. That socket will only work for a telephone or probably an ADSL modem, etc.

What he would need is a network socket, that connects to another network socket next to his fibre.

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danepak

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#1764050 13-Apr-2017 20:53

OK thanks.

The issue is that the fibre box and router is installed in the other end of the house. Not very practical. He's got a small office down that end.

He's got a WiFi extender in the living room though, which isn't too bad, but it would be good to have a hardwired connection in the living room.

Currently he's got 100mbit fibre (he gets around 85mbit download on Speedtest) down in the end of the house, where the fibre is installed.

With the TV connected to the WiFi extender via an ethernet cable, he gets around 35mbit download in the living room.

Jase2985

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#1764052 13-Apr-2017 20:58

dont use wifi extenders they are horrible

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#1764054 13-Apr-2017 21:01

The fact there are electricians still installing $25 BT sockets when a $3 RJ45 keystone jack is the better (and the industry recommended option) option says everything about their lack of knowledge of phone and data cabling, and everything about charging the customer $$$

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danepak

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#1764058 13-Apr-2017 21:14

Jase2985:

dont use wifi extenders they are horrible

What's the alternative?

Spyware

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#1764065 13-Apr-2017 21:24

Having a suitably knowledgeable person data cable your house.

Spark Max Fibre using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+, CRS125-24G-1S, Unifi UAP, U6-Pro, UAP-AC-M-Pro, Apple TV 4K (2022), Apple TV 4K (2017), iPad Air 1st gen, iPad Air 4th gen, iPhone 13, SkyNZ3151 (the white box). If it doesn't move then it's data cabled.

froob

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#1764073 13-Apr-2017 21:48

Powerline adapters are not bad, if data wiring isn't feasible.

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danepak

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#1764106 13-Apr-2017 23:08

OK, so if he likely to get better performance, with powerline adapters, compared to wireless extender?

PhantomNVD

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#1764111 13-Apr-2017 23:54

Yes!

Wifi extender basically 'Chinese whispers' your signal, halving your throughput (speed) as they listen/repeat/listen/repeat and can't do both at the same time...

Think of it as yelling down the passage and having your wife then yell out the door at the end... the message might get to the child outside, but the speed and response will be much slower 😉

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#1764112 13-Apr-2017 23:55

Not all do chinese whispers. some are dual band and repeat across bands.

Also I think I read that the OP was using the ethernet port on it, so in that respect its just like any other client bridge device for thruput.

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danepak

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#1764134 14-Apr-2017 07:14

OK, thanks.
They paid a few hundred bucks for it (the WiFi extender). The TV in the living room has been running Kodi streams (legal ones obviously) perfectly well. That TV is connected to an Android box (so the box is connected to the WiFi extender via ethernet). The TV in the adjacent room is an Android TV and runs Kodi directly. That TV is connected to the wireless router via WiFi. It's approx 3-4 meters away and he gets around 25mbit download, where the one in the living room get around 35mbit download.

I'll post the model number of the wireless extender later.

danepak

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#1764135 14-Apr-2017 07:31

It's a Netgear EX7000.
Approx $400.

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