Sanity check on cost to install ethernet wiring

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#1508037 8-Mar-2016 11:56

sbiddle:

IMHO I'd never run single outlets anywhere. The biggest cost is labour, so if you're running cable it's no more effort to run 2.

Excuse my ignorance, but will having double outlets require two cables? Or can the output from a single cable be split over multiple ports?

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#1508038 8-Mar-2016 11:58

dclegg:
nakedmolerat:

I highly recommend you contact @coffeebaron

We're initially approaching the electrician used by the re-cladding company, but thanks for the recommendation.

The wrinkle in using someone else is that they'd need to be available pretty soon. We have just over a weeks window to get this done, before they start installing the new external cladding. And the electrician is already available to do the work for us during this timeframe.

@coffeebaron fixed the cabling nightmare that was left behind by sparky. I didn't bother asking them to fix it and get Fraser to sort it out instead.

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#1508041 8-Mar-2016 12:03

dclegg:

Excuse my ignorance, but will having double outlets require two cables? Or can the output from a single cable be split over multiple ports?

He means running two cables, but yes with some limitations (e.g. 100mb not 1gb) you can split a 4 pair cable across two ports. I wouldn't though.

As he intimated, the main cost involved here is going to be labour, and the labour required to run two lengths of cable simultaneously is basically the same as that required to run one, so get two. I support that advice.

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#1508050 8-Mar-2016 12:13

FYI - I just moved my hub from attic to basement.
For three years - I had no issues but this year the heat this year in Wellington nearly killed my modem/router making internet connections unstable and the devices were IMHO - a fire risk.
I have put them in a DIY cabinet to protect it from my other DIY activities and havent had any problems since with the devices running cool.

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#1508051 8-Mar-2016 12:23

Or just have holes and draw wires put in to the roof space so you can pull whatever later on thru,

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#1508053 8-Mar-2016 12:26

You'll find the Cat 6 keystone jacks start adding up, I bought them in sets of 5 from trademe.

300m Cat6 cable is a bit less than $200,

remember need to include nice looking faceplates, 24point Patch panel and mountings, 8 port gigabit switch, maybe a wall recessed enclosure for it all.

I found computer direct good for the parts.

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#1508079 8-Mar-2016 13:15

Jase2985:

electrician for data wiring? asking for trouble

Not fair, my guys in wellington did a great job (Yes Electrical)

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#1508080 8-Mar-2016 13:17

jonb:

You'll find the Cat 6 keystone jacks start adding up, I bought them in sets of 5 from trademe.

300m Cat6 cable is a bit less than $200,

remember need to include nice looking faceplates, 24point Patch panel and mountings, 8 port gigabit switch, maybe a wall recessed enclosure for it all.

I found computer direct good for the parts.

How does this look, as a good base to start from?

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#1508084 8-Mar-2016 13:20

If you are paying to get it done most places send a minimum of two guys. My contractors in Chch charge me $65 per hour for labour so if you have two guys onsite $1000 will only cover 7 hours of labour not including cable and sockets.

I would budget 3-4K or learn to do it yourself. I have wired my house myself just by watching the contractors I use at work and getting advice from them.

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#1508085 8-Mar-2016 13:20

dclegg:

How does this look, as a good base to start from?

You really want something flush with a door etc in a house, unless you are planning on putting it in a larger cupboard or something. Otherwise very low spousal acceptance from commercial looking patch panels etc.

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#1508115 8-Mar-2016 14:14

More like this, from computerstore.co.nz

With 4 port faceplates and four cables behind TV. PDL Faceplates are the nicest looking.

Check the faceplates match up well with your existing sockets, the cheaper ones are flatter against the wall for example.

About 20-25 ketstone jacks, either of these depending on which faceplates.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-1043600396.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-1046525869.htm

And an 8 port gigabit switch for starters.

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#1508128 8-Mar-2016 14:31

jonb:

More like this, from computerstore.co.nz

Thanks, that's all very helpful.

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#1508130 8-Mar-2016 14:35

As others have said, can get electrician to install all the runs of cable, and a power supply to the cabinet. You can then DIY the terminations yourself later, or else @coffeebaron.

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#1508133 8-Mar-2016 14:44

jonb:

As others have said, can get electrician to install all the runs of cable, and a power supply to the cabinet. You can then DIY the terminations yourself later, or else @coffeebaron.

Don't forget the power supply - I got a 4-outlet powerpoint installed:

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#1508134 8-Mar-2016 14:48

Lias:

dclegg:

Excuse my ignorance, but will having double outlets require two cables? Or can the output from a single cable be split over multiple ports?

He means running two cables, but yes with some limitations (e.g. 100mb not 1gb) you can split a 4 pair cable across two ports. I wouldn't though.

As he intimated, the main cost involved here is going to be labour, and the labour required to run two lengths of cable simultaneously is basically the same as that required to run one, so get two. I support that advice.

I've seen data cabling guys run up to five cables simultaneously off of five separate rolls. Saves on labour costs.

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