Upgrade AV500 to AV2000 Powerline Adaptors

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#2846050 10-Jan-2022 12:26

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That said, we have now moved into a much newer house: built in 2003/2004.

It has zero network wiring in it. It has a concrete pad floor (so I can't go under it). It has an architecturally "fun" single span single pitch roof - with no cavity (so I can't go over it). It also has internal brick wall through the hallway (so I can't really go through it!). Wall lining removal would be my only option and she-who-must-be-obeyed says nope.

I have dealt with a couple of these types of buildings, a method often overlooked is to shallow trench conduit around the peremiter of the building (in gardens etc) and drop circuits off as required using outdoor rated cable, obviously conduit T to rise up a vertical conduit and a wall box to enter the building as an where required..

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#2846086 10-Jan-2022 13:19

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That said, we have now moved into a much newer house: built in 2003/2004.

It has zero network wiring in it. It has a concrete pad floor (so I can't go under it). It has an architecturally "fun" single span single pitch roof - with no cavity (so I can't go over it). It also has internal brick wall through the hallway (so I can't really go through it!). Wall lining removal would be my only option and she-who-must-be-obeyed says nope.

I have tried mesh wifi gear - what a load of rubbish they are! (disclaimer: I design enterprise WiFi stuff so perhaps my expectations are too high?)

Even though I thought my TL-PA9020P kit had died, I never got round to disposing of it, so in desperation, I got it out and tried it. Working fine! So presumably cabling done from 2003 onwards is more amenable to the right variety of modulation/demodulation required for powerline. I'll probably jinx it by typing this but it hasn't actually gone offline once yet. Don't think there is any point in sharing speedtest / throughput results because my circumstance and mains wiring isn't the same as yours so it's not relevant.

I'm renting a 1995 built brick/tile house on concrete slab with 2 bedrooms and internal access garage, well built, and I would posit to say wired well (apart from some GPO's installed with horizontal in-wall runs to be placed under windows) as my AV500 EoP adaptors have been very very reliable here - only a handful of dropouts in 18+ months I've been here easily solved by power cycling the individual EoP's. I get a rocksteady 90 Mbps across my EoP network, which is a lot faster than the 11bgn mixed 300 Mbps wifi my current router provides. Nothing seems to affect the throughput, even the microwave or FF or Hot Water heater can be running and I still get 90 Mbps.

Anyway, while it doesn't directly answer your query about AV500 > AV2000 upgrade, hope some of my experience might be useful. I don't think you can read anything into other people's results even if they did use exactly the same powerline hardware as you have (and are considering upgrading to) because the major variables are the mains wiring itself and also the mix of other appliances running on said mains wiring (causes interference for the signal propagation and modulation/demodulation) - which will always differ to yours!.

It helps, your experiences are useful information and it seems that relatively modern wiring (such as is installed here or in your new digs) will certainly help. My prior rental was a 1975 built property with 100/20 fibre, and my EoP throughput was a bit slower at around 75-80 Mbps (which I didn't worry about as it was close enough to the fibre speed). I've looked at the cost of mesh wifi and other suggestions posted by others, and believe it or not dropping some $$ on a couple of AV2000 EoP's is actually going to be the cheapest solution that doesn't involve running Cat6 across the floor. I'll go ahead and grab a pair of AV2000's if anyone has any left... 🤪😑

Cheers, Chris, Christchurch.

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#2846092 10-Jan-2022 13:44

I've got 4 spare Netgear AV2000 units. PM if you want them.

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#2846100 10-Jan-2022 14:04

Chrisblobster:

I've looked at the cost of mesh wifi and other suggestions posted by others, and believe it or not dropping some $$ on a couple of AV2000 EoP's is actually going to be the cheapest solution that doesn't involve running Cat6 across the floor. I'll go ahead and grab a pair of AV2000's if anyone has any left... 🤪😑

I totally believe it. If you can't do the cabling yourself and/or don't have access to hardware at trade rates, then even cabling costs quickly mount.

Plus - the EoP units are portable so you get to take with, if you move / switch rentals etc.

For ref, found these MoCA 2.5 which are at least a brand I have heard of 😂

https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Adapter-Ethernet-Network-Streaming/dp/B08XWWZTLP/currency=NZD&currencyCode=NZD

I figure that Motorola have a proven track record with mo/dem coax signals. Close to all of the docsis cable modems in NZ used by TCL/VF HFC were Moto units...

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#2846244 10-Jan-2022 16:09

Ive been using a pair of D-link DHP-700AV in my really old house for over three years now and they work mint.

I get the full bandwidth of my current 300Mb fibre connection. They're really reliable as I think they've only dropped connection twice in the years Ive had them.

But again, its like the others say that its really up to the internal wiring in your home which will dictate how well they perform.

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#2850259 13-Jan-2022 17:17

Thanks to all who replied, and thanks to 1024kb who I bought 4 of the Netgear PLP2000 units from - they're happily installed now and allowing me to max out my 300 Mbps fibre, and do 350+ Mbps transfers between EoP's across my network - so it does seem in my case that if you can get 90 Mbps on AV500 powerline adaptors that moving up to AV2000 will give approx a 4X throughput increase. 👍

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#2850901 14-Jan-2022 16:02

Good result.

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