Playstation 5 internet - HOW? Ethernet? Booster?

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kiwichris83

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#3014181 27-Dec-2022 09:30

Thanks yeah

I think we will go with mesh solution. As seems more simple and less complicated and also will not risk our systems blowing up or what not from in sheildEd cables etc :) and can be done today…

But wired fibre/cat6 will be the solution when we build permanently so there is at least a wired option out here alongside the wifi :)

Thanks for your help so far :)

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#3014182 27-Dec-2022 09:31

kiwichris83:

Using ps5 network test got me 29.5mb/s
Using chorus speed test on MacBook Pro got me 31.9mb/s
Using the Ookla speed test on iPhone 12 got me 27mb/s

Definitely not enough. Am watching premier league in sleepout right now and it’s buffering a lot :(

Is the sleepout clad in aluminium??

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#3014183 27-Dec-2022 09:40

Nah it’s wood I think. The roof is aliminim thou. And the house is brick…

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#3014184 27-Dec-2022 09:42

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wireless will lag even if you're next to the modem

all servers are overseas so you already have lag - add wifi and your gameplay will be terrible

Maybe your wifi, not good wifi 🤣

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#3014185 27-Dec-2022 09:45

kiwichris83: Thanks yeah

I think we will go with mesh solution. As seems more simple and less complicated and also will not risk our systems blowing up or what not from in sheildEd cables etc :) and can be done today…

But wired fibre/cat6 will be the solution when we build permanently so there is at least a wired option out here alongside the wifi :)

Thanks for your help so far :)

You might be surprised how inexpensive it is to route an ethernet cable properly. I had 5 rooms in my house done with a length of cable back to the basement server room each. Cost around $650 all up for 5 rooms/probably 50M of cable. Mesh Wifi will not be far shy of that price, personally instead of mesh I'd do point-to-point between the buildings and just run a separate SSID in the location of the PS5, if I couldn't run ethernet that is.

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#3014186 27-Dec-2022 09:46

kiwichris83: Thanks yeah

I think we will go with mesh solution. As seems more simple and less complicated and also will not risk our systems blowing up or what not from in sheildEd cables etc :) and can be done today…

But wired fibre/cat6 will be the solution when we build permanently so there is at least a wired option out here alongside the wifi :)

Thanks for your help so far :)

If you use an 'external' wireless system (not built into your ISP's modem/router) then make sure you turn OFF the wireless on the provided router, so you don't end up limiting your speeds or creating interference.

The deco systems (and I am sure others) can actually plug directly into your ONT and act as a modem.

Try and spread your units evenly throughout the house and don't put them in cupboards, or other areas that could potentially 'block' the signal.

BTW if you have had at least 2 Covid shots you should be getting WiFi7 as part of the free stuff the government added to the mix, that will help you act as a extender as well :)

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#3014187 27-Dec-2022 09:47

I wouldn't waste my money on mesh given you tried an extender.

A more appropriate wireless solution is a point to point wireless solution, i.e., Access Point and Client mounted externally on each building and cable run to inside, powered over Ethernet cable. Could nearly be as good as a cable.

https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire_cube

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#3014188 27-Dec-2022 09:49

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I wouldn't waste my money on mesh given you tried an extender.

Disagree with this. Depending on so many factors it could have just been that the 'source' source signal wasn't strong enough. A 2-3 Pack mesh system would cover in most cases, most NZ homes. People don't understand you need overlap to extend :)

Extenders aren't magic, you need something to 'attach' to :)

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#3014193 27-Dec-2022 10:01

Mesh is fully robust as long as each station is well within the coverage area of each other, so it's able to repeat a strong signal. If you're installing at the very edge of a signal then you're only extending a rubbish signal.

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#3014204 27-Dec-2022 10:35

kiwichris83:
Using ps5 network test got me 29.5mb/s
Using chorus speed test on MacBook Pro got me 31.9mb/s
Using the Ookla speed test on iPhone 12 got me 27mb/s

Are all those tests conducted from the sleepout, or somewhere else in the house?

Assuming they are Mb/s (not mb/s) then 30 Mb/s really should be good enough for any of the services you mentioned without buffering. In order to work out of this is actually a wifi problem, or something else to do with your internet connection, has it always been like this? What sort of connection do you have (xDSL/Fibre/FW etc. and what speed do you pay for)? Do you have any device/s you can do a speedtest over ethernet instead of wifi?

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#3014717 28-Dec-2022 18:44

You could try Ethernet over powerline

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETDLK5P601AV/D-Link-DHP-P601AV-PowerLine-AV2-1Gbps-Dual-Kit-Wit

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#3014769 28-Dec-2022 19:01

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kiwichris83:
Using ps5 network test got me 29.5mb/s
Using chorus speed test on MacBook Pro got me 31.9mb/s
Using the Ookla speed test on iPhone 12 got me 27mb/s

Are all those tests conducted from the sleepout, or somewhere else in the house?

Assuming they are Mb/s (not mb/s) then 30 Mb/s really should be good enough for any of the services you mentioned without buffering. In order to work out of this is actually a wifi problem, or something else to do with your internet connection, has it always been like this? What sort of connection do you have (xDSL/Fibre/FW etc. and what speed do you pay for)? Do you have any device/s you can do a speedtest over ethernet instead of wifi?

I am in full agreement with the above. Given Netflix and YouTube works just fine on much worse connections I would look a little bit more into your buffering issues.

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#3014770 28-Dec-2022 19:09

Spyware:

I wouldn't waste my money on mesh given you tried an extender.

A more appropriate wireless solution is a point to point wireless solution, i.e., Access Point and Client mounted externally on each building and cable run to inside, powered over Ethernet cable. Could nearly be as good as a cable.

https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire_cube

I lived in a sleepout for a few years and this is the exact solution I end up going for after trying extenders, Unifi, etc. Basically had an NanoBeam AP (a bit like this one) on the main house connected to the main router, with a 5 GHz wireless link to an AP on the sleepout connected to an Ethernet switch which had ethernet cables running to fixed machines (including our console) and a second WiFi AP using Ethernet Backhaul (which in itself was routed over the House-Sleepout 5GHz connection). Worked incredibly well but did need a lot of work to set up.

I would try mesh wireless APs first. A family friend asked for advice on a similar situation (except it was a garage in their case and not a sleepout). I advised them to get a pair of Netgear Orbis and my father in law went up to fix it up for them. Despite his very basic networking knowledge he was able to get it up and running and family friend was very statisfied with the performance. This is probably what I would recommend to people who just want to buy something off the shelf and have it just work out of the box.

If you don't mind tinkering with different ways of doing it, it is worth getting some gear second hand off Trade Me to test out various approaches. The NanoBeams I got above I actually got cheap off Trade Me just to see if it would work. Ended up being in place for the next 2-3 years...!

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