Switched from 2Degrees Hyperfibre to Quic....can't log into Nokia router to enter Quic settings

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#3150407 20-Oct-2023 10:56

NVRensburg:

My husband opted for hyperfibre as he games and he wanted the best "ping"

I seriously knew that was the case. Basically anything will suit but would for your case recommend a provider that provides a mesh kit. You can even get away with 300/100Mbit and I doubt you'll notice the difference here.

If you want something ASAP as you're disconnected then Spark, grab a Spark Smart Modem 3 along with a Smart Mesh (to replace your extender) which can be picked up from the store. You should be able to do the full end to end (sign up and pick up the router) from a Spark store.

Internet in NZ is incredibly good but it sounds to me the Spark Gigabit plan will suit your needs fine. You could even go for their 300/100Mbit plan and I highly doubt your husband will notice any difference here too. Having the best ping is totally unrelated to the speed of service you receive.

You can also stay with Quic however I'll recommend downgrading to the 900/400Mbit plan and just picking up a router. As others mentioned here, would recommend grabbing a mesh kit like the TP-Link Deco.

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#3150408 20-Oct-2023 10:57

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Ping is a way to measure latency (or delay) on a connection. Hyperfibre does not have an inherant lower latency than any other fibre connection - it's all at the speed of light. For gaming, less delay is considered to be better.

The only time you need to go for a faster connection to reduce latency is when the connection is nearing capacity - i.e. lots of other things using it at the same time. It's like adding lanes to a road, they don't let you get from one end to the other any faster, until the road starts to bottleneck.

As @michaelmurfy says, you'd probably be absolutely fine on 900/500 standard fibre with any of the decent providers. If you have some other use though where someone in the house is regularly moving huge amounts of data up and down, then it would be a time to consider hyperfibre. Not video streaming and that sort of thing, but massive backups or raw video files etc.

Skinny/Spark/One and several others would all be fine. Quic are also good, but they are targetted at users that have a fairly in depth technical skillset and can self support for most aspect. Not to say you shouldn't use Quic, but be prepared to learn a bit about networking.

Could you advise on a good provider that gives a decent router? Apparently some of these routers that are provided are no good and we need to replace them anyway?

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#3150409 20-Oct-2023 10:58

NVRensburg: Could you advise on a good provider that gives a decent router? Apparently some of these routers that are provided are no good and we need to replace them anyway?

All providers actually provide good, and capable routers these days.

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#3150417 20-Oct-2023 11:14

Run Ethernet cable from the router to some good access points. The key with gaming is to use Ethernet directly into the computer from the router

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#3150425 20-Oct-2023 11:28

Linux: Run Ethernet cable from the router to some good access points. The key with gaming is to use Ethernet directly into the computer from the router

Was going to suggest this too.

Getting an ethernet cable from the router to the PS5 will reduce the latency/ping, rather than using wifi.

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#3150446 20-Oct-2023 12:00

NVRensburg:

Thank you for your advice and explanations. Makes it a lot easier to understand. Ok I think we may downgrade with Quic and see how we go for the month and if we don't win we'll try another provider. We have 4 x Deco M5's around our house as we have a large double story. Could you give us some advice on maybe something better than those to get better coverage all over our house?

You seem to have moved to Quic, so you can use the Deco M5 with one connected to the ONT and set to router mode.

You should be able to configure the mesh system from the Deco app.

For best performance, connect the Deco mesh using Ethernet where possible, and connect the gaming console using Ethernet too.

Using WiFi for gaming will not help, even if you have the fastest possible connection.

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#3150448 20-Oct-2023 12:05

Totally missed the Deco reply (it was posted at the exact same time as my post).

But yes, configure and use this and drop your plan down to the "900/400Mbit" plan.

On your Deco -

PPPoE, username "quic@quic.nz" and password can be anything except blank. You only use the first port of the Nokia ONT. Should get you online quickly.

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#3150457 20-Oct-2023 12:25

It's been said several times already, but it really is worth repeating. If you can possibly run an ethernet network cable from the games machine to your router, that will be far better for gaming than any brand WiFi at all.

Much the same as the speed of your internet connection is different to the latency (delay), wifi has a much higher latency than a physical cable. You can have really good wifi coverage and wifi speed but it can never beat the latency of a cable. It's this latency that is being measured by Ping and what most gamers are trying to reduce to a minimum.

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