Balancing ADSL bandwidth usage on LAN

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HairyScot

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Topic # 132175 11-Oct-2013 09:48

I have a home network with 4 users connected by ethernet to a D-Link DSL-G604T.
I'e found that certain applications like Google Drive and Outlook, which have no built in facility to control bandwidth usage, tend to grab all the available bandwidth for one user and kill response for the others.
Are there any routers which can automatically balance the bandwidth usage between users on a LAN?
Is this possible with a D-Link DSL-G604T?

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Reply # 913502 11-Oct-2013 10:22

Check out http://www.gargoyle-router.com/wiki/doku.php?id=qos

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Reply # 913503 11-Oct-2013 10:23

A commercial grade Draytek will.

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HairyScot

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Reply # 913511 11-Oct-2013 10:26

rhy7s: Check out http://www.gargoyle-router.com/wiki/doku.php?id=qos

Thanks for the info.

I see there is a QoS facility on my router so I have some reading to do.

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Reply # 913520 11-Oct-2013 10:40

The 'QoS' feature in your router will be rubbish compared to what Gargoyle can offer. You can do proper traffic shaping on Gargoyle which is probably you want to stop users sucking up bandwidth.
I personally use pfSense which has a full on traffic shaper which I run based on protocol and it also is Layer 7 aware so i can shape based on application which is quite nice.

HairyScot

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Reply # 913527 11-Oct-2013 10:47

Apparently QoS is not the answer.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1363788
"In fact what you want is called throttling and is available only on billion 740x series and better draytek..
Or you need to buy a router and install tomato firmware on it."

HairyScot

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Reply # 913551 11-Oct-2013 11:52

Thanks for all the info.

Looks like the first step is a new router. Maybe a Draytek (depending on price of the model that has the facilities I'm after) or one that is Gargoyle compatible.

Anyone has any experience of Tomato Firmware?

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Reply # 913569 11-Oct-2013 12:31

Don't bother spending hundreds on a Draytek. They are nice but Gargoyle has better traffic shaping stuff.

Get a Draytek Vigor 120 and bridge it to a TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware. You can even buy the TP-Link pre-loaded with Gargoyle direct from Gargoyle themselves if you don't feel confident flashing the firmware.

HairyScot

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Reply # 913577 11-Oct-2013 12:52

chevrolux: Don't bother spending hundreds on a Draytek. They are nice but Gargoyle has better traffic shaping stuff.

Get a Draytek Vigor 120 and bridge it to a TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware. You can even buy the TP-Link pre-loaded with Gargoyle direct from Gargoyle themselves if you don't feel confident flashing the firmware.

Maybe I'm being dense, but why would I need two devices?
Surely the TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware would do the trick?

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Reply # 913583 11-Oct-2013 13:01

HairyScot:
chevrolux: Don't bother spending hundreds on a Draytek. They are nice but Gargoyle has better traffic shaping stuff.

Get a Draytek Vigor 120 and bridge it to a TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware. You can even buy the TP-Link pre-loaded with Gargoyle direct from Gargoyle themselves if you don't feel confident flashing the firmware.

Maybe I'm being dense, but why would I need two devices?
Surely the TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware would do the trick?

The WR1043ND doesn't have a DSL modem.

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HairyScot

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Reply # 913595 11-Oct-2013 13:13

Inphinity:
HairyScot:
chevrolux: Don't bother spending hundreds on a Draytek. They are nice but Gargoyle has better traffic shaping stuff.

Get a Draytek Vigor 120 and bridge it to a TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware. You can even buy the TP-Link pre-loaded with Gargoyle direct from Gargoyle themselves if you don't feel confident flashing the firmware.

Maybe I'm being dense, but why would I need two devices?
Surely the TP-Link WR1043ND with the Gargoyle firmware would do the trick?

The WR1043ND doesn't have a DSL modem.

AH!
I see.
I'm getting things confused. :(

Some more research needed I think.

HairyScot

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Reply # 913633 11-Oct-2013 13:39

Perhaps I could put my DSL-G604T in bridge mode and link it to TP-Link WR1043ND which has Gargoyle?

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Reply # 913641 11-Oct-2013 13:44

HairyScot: Perhaps I could put my DSL-G604T in bridge mode and link it to TP-Link WR1043ND which has Gargoyle?

Yes, as long as the 604T supports bridge mode (I'm fairly sure the rev2 does, not sure about original version).

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Reply # 913659 11-Oct-2013 13:56

The handy thing about Gargoyle's implementation is the active congestion controller, so it can cope with variability on your WAN link, which isn't common in other QOS solutions.

HairyScot

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Reply # 913666 11-Oct-2013 14:01

Inphinity:
HairyScot: Perhaps I could put my DSL-G604T in bridge mode and link it to TP-Link WR1043ND which has Gargoyle?

Yes, as long as the 604T supports bridge mode (I'm fairly sure the rev2 does, not sure about original version).

Mine does have Bridge Mode available, so perhaps I have the answer.

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Reply # 913757 11-Oct-2013 16:53

Definitely use gargoyle i don't personally use the QoS functions on there but i haven't had the need to either. I have a torrent box setup and playing games is not affected by it the router is able to manage the connection without lag. I got a TP-LINK 4300 for the gigabit lan and 5ghz wifi.

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