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Dodgy1

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# 138904 21-Jan-2014 12:59

Well thanks Microsoft! What is the use of having a password protected wireless home network if anyone on that network can right click, check a box and bingo, you give them my password to then pass on to anyone they want!!! That is what has happened at my house recently. Luckily for me I have a big enough data cap to cover the single infringement. My question is, is there any other way of securing my wireless home network so that only myself has control over it? For instance, only certain ip addresses entered into the routers settings?? Frustrating to say the least.

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# 970607 21-Jan-2014 13:13

What does Microsoft have to do with securing your wireless network on your modem/router? Your post is not clear as to what happened?

Do whatever you want to do man.

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# 970612 21-Jan-2014 13:17

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My question is, is there any other way of securing my wireless home network so that only myself has control over it?

Yes, go into your router and ENABLE MAC address whitelist.

I think OP meant that anyone that has access to his computer can easily 'uncover' the password for his network. He is in the opinion that the password should not be revealed - only ******

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# 970613 21-Jan-2014 13:17

You really need to explain your situation a little better including the type of hardware you're using.

If somebody has access to a computer on your network they're clearly got the ability to use the internet.

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# 970615 21-Jan-2014 13:18

At a guess, used internet explorer. Browsed to the default gateway. Used the default PW, and checked the show password in the SSID security tab.

Which... still isn't their fault.

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# 970620 21-Jan-2014 13:24

With windows 8 - you can right click the network icon, properties, and untick the box to show password. Walla! You can see the network key.

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# 970624 21-Jan-2014 13:26

Were you logged in as an admin? Try using a non-admin account if you need to provide access to an untrusted user.

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# 970626 21-Jan-2014 13:27

nakedmolerat: With windows 8 - you can right click the network icon, properties, and untick the box to show password. Walla! You can see the network key.

You can view your WiFi password with any OS.

Dodgy1

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# 970627 21-Jan-2014 13:27

billgates: What does Microsoft have to do with securing your wireless network on your modem/router? Your post is not clear as to what happened?

In a nutshell I put the password into my daughters laptop so she could get on the net. My son then wanted the password so his mate could access the net via my net work and I refused. He then went onto my daughters laptop and into the network settings page and checked the box that says show characters and viola.....he then gave the password to his mate.

Dodgy1

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# 970637 21-Jan-2014 13:32

nakedmolerat:
My question is, is there any other way of securing my wireless home network so that only myself has control over it?

Yes, go into your router and ENABLE MAC address whitelist.

I think OP meant that anyone that has access to his computer can easily 'uncover' the password for his network. He is in the opinion that the password should not be revealed - only ******

Thats exactly what happened. The settings on my router are secured by a password. This however happened when I put the password for the network on my daughters laptop. My son then went on her laptop and into the network settings and checked a box that says show characters and there is my password for the network!!

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# 970638 21-Jan-2014 13:34

Dodgy1:
billgates: What does Microsoft have to do with securing your wireless network on your modem/router? Your post is not clear as to what happened?

In a nutshell I put the password into my daughters laptop so she could get on the net. My son then wanted the password so his mate could access the net via my net work and I refused. He then went onto my daughters laptop and into the network settings page and checked the box that says show characters and viola.....he then gave the password to his mate.

This is not an issue with Microsoft or any other OS whatsoever.

It's a human element issue. Your son disobeyed your wishes, punish him.

Brush it off as an oversight on your part and if you are really that concerned with your network security and you can't trust your children to not give out the access key, look at a better network authentication method...

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# 970640 21-Jan-2014 13:35

Ahh. nakedmolerat and hasbrown got it in 2

Time to create a new limited user and lock with GPedit further. Goodbye any ability to do that.

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# 970643 21-Jan-2014 13:39

You need to secure your daughters computer so she only has standard user account access.

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Dodgy1

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# 970645 21-Jan-2014 13:40

Yes, go into your router and ENABLE MAC address whitelist.

Thanks. Just doing the google thing to find out about that.

Dodgy1

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# 970648 21-Jan-2014 13:46

profrink:
Dodgy1:
billgates: What does Microsoft have to do with securing your wireless network on your modem/router? Your post is not clear as to what happened?

In a nutshell I put the password into my daughters laptop so she could get on the net. My son then wanted the password so his mate could access the net via my net work and I refused. He then went onto my daughters laptop and into the network settings page and checked the box that says show characters and viola.....he then gave the password to his mate.

This is not an issue with Microsoft or any other OS whatsoever.

Sorry but I disagree on that one. The whole idea of a password is that it stays confidential. Vista and who knows what other o/s provides a check box to show your password in the network settings is in my view an os issue

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# 970652 21-Jan-2014 13:50

Dodgy1:
billgates: What does Microsoft have to do with securing your wireless network on your modem/router? Your post is not clear as to what happened?

In a nutshell I put the password into my daughters laptop so she could get on the net. My son then wanted the password so his mate could access the net via my net work and I refused. He then went onto my daughters laptop and into the network settings page and checked the box that says show characters and viola.....he then gave the password to his mate.

Where is this? I don't remember a place where you can see a password after it is stored.

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