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Yorkshirekid

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#161951 24-Jan-2015 18:32

I'd read the various artices on my subject and I am still a bit dazed.

I'm with Slingshot and do not want to use their router as the reviews I've read on here are not good; one of the main features being a lack of a Gb ethernet connection. I have a ethernet direct to my TV and I don't want to go back to 100Mb.

UFB is finally avilaable to my place, as of last week. I'm now looking for a suitable router I can use. I'm a home user and don't need to be able to tweak it to kingdom come - BUT - if i need to learn I will do that.

I know SlingS will not support anything I purchase, hence I'd like something that does not look like Spok needs to be sitting next to me to get it to work.

I need 4 ports at a minimum and wirless as good (if not better) as my current Netcom NB 304N.

What I'm asking for here is if ppl could just give me a list of (perhaps) their personal top 3 UFB routers. I'll simply Google those and make a decision once I've read up. Or hey - just tell me, "dude, get THIS one". Also, maybe some of you SlingS customers have bought their 'own brand' that can vouch work ok with this ISP?

Thanks in advance guys.

RunningMan

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#1221515 24-Jan-2015 18:36

If all you are looking for is Gb ethernet from the Slingshot supplied one, then just use the supplied router and grab a gig switch for the wired devices.

Cheapest option, and you still get full support from the ISP.

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Yorkshirekid

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#1221525 24-Jan-2015 19:01

good idea - I didn't think of that. But may I ask - if data come out at 100MB into the swith then at GB speed out of that, isn't the 100MB just a bottleneck?

RunningMan

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#1221536 24-Jan-2015 19:28

Devices on the lan can communicate at gig speeds (so local devices) but data across the wan will be 100M only. This shouldn't be a problem as presumably they wouldn't supply a router with only 100Mb ports for a connection faster than 100Mb.

Yorkshirekid

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#1221560 24-Jan-2015 20:23

Thanks for that. Bare with me...I follow your first sentance but not the second. Could yopu break that down possibly please?

RunningMan

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#1221569 24-Jan-2015 20:50

It was a bit tongue in cheek!

Basically if your ufb connection is limited to 100Mb/s or less then a 100Mb network port will keep up - the bottleneck is whatever connection speed you are paying for, not the network port on the router.

Unless you are routing between multiple internal subsets (pretty unlikely for most home users) then the router ports won't be a bottleneck for you. If all your devices are connected to a gigE switch they can talk to each other at gigE speeds and to the outside world at whatever speed connection you buy.

Jase2985

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#1221582 24-Jan-2015 21:40

hes saying currently most peoples bottle neck will be their internet connection, not the speed of their LAN ports.

when you go to a faster internet connection greater than 100mbps i would has it a guess that all modems/routers will have Gbps Ethernet ports.

Yorkshirekid

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#1221778 25-Jan-2015 11:30

Thanks again.

I'm still awaiting peoples top 3 choice of UFB routers though. That would be great to give me a focus. At present I'm favouring Asus DSL_N66U.

May I ask, I keep reading the term VLAN tagging. Is this something I would need in my house?

On my current Modem my ports are for:
1 - ethernet to the TV
2 - the printer
3 - a second PC
4 - a GB switch

The 5 port switch goes to a NAS and leaves three others free.

I must say, reading about UFB routers is much harder to understand than the usual ADSL's. There's so much more going on and I wish I could find a document/site that explains it all much clearer.

Thanks you.

Behodar

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#1221788 25-Jan-2015 11:47

Yorkshirekid: May I ask, I keep reading the term VLAN tagging. Is this something I would need in my house?

Some of the confusion probably comes from the fact that this is ISP-dependent. If your ISP requires VLAN tagging then you need a router that supports it. I don't know whether Slingshot needs it or not.

It would be nice if there was a sticky in the UFB forum listing which ISPs need what, but I don't have enough expertise to even start such a list!

OmniouS

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#1221808 25-Jan-2015 12:57

Behodar:
Yorkshirekid: May I ask, I keep reading the term VLAN tagging. Is this something I would need in my house?

Some of the confusion probably comes from the fact that this is ISP-dependent. If your ISP requires VLAN tagging then you need a router that supports it. I don't know whether Slingshot needs it or not.

It would be nice if there was a sticky in the UFB forum listing which ISPs need what, but I don't have enough expertise to even start such a list!

Slingshot requires VLAN tagging (at least my connection does). I'd highly recommend AGAINST using the supplied TP150 based on first hand experience, and the experience of friends.

I'm using a $50 Small form factor PC that I purchased on TradeMe + Dual Port Intel Gig nic + pfSense + switch. It is much more powerful and feature rich than most consumer routers on the market for a fraction of the price. Sure, it will draw a bit more electricity but not much at all in the big scheme of things, taking into account the cheap setup costs.

If you're looking for something out of the box, I know a few people using the Asus RT-XX series of routers with no issues at all.

Jase2985

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#1221837 25-Jan-2015 13:46

Yorkshirekid: Thanks again.

I'm still awaiting peoples top 3 choice of UFB routers though. That would be great to give me a focus. At present I'm favouring Asus DSL_N66U.

have you looked at the 5+ other thread in the NZUFB forum and various other ISPs forums asking the same question?

this question gets asked plenty of times and the answers are generally always the same