Bluetooth + 3970 - almost working

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MikeC

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#1776 26-Jun-2004 07:32

Hi all,

I've read the various guides here (excellent stuff by the way) and have gotten my 3970 iPaq to activesync with my PC via my MSI 6967 (PC2PC) USB bluetooth dongle.

I can also get my iPaq to connect to the PC with "network access" via bluetooth.

However, when connected via network access I can't surt the net with PIE and I get no response when attempting ping my PC with vxUtils or when attempting to ping my iPaq from the PC. I've looked at the trouble shooting thread but none of the suggestions have helped.

A few more details of my set-up...

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP1 on my PC which connects to the internet through a Netgear RP114 switch and an NTL (I'm in the UK) cable modem.

Because of this I've bridged the local area connection and bluetooth network connections as per these guides:
http://home.comcast.net/~spam-target/1327.html
http://www.pc-counselor.com/How_to/bluetooth_network.htm

I'm using the latest bluetooth drivers from the MSI web site, it reports itself as 1.4.2 build 10.

I've also got Norton Internet Security running but have configured the firewall to add the IP address range of 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255 to the "trusted zone".

My network knowledge is limited but as I understand it DHCP is assigning everything IP addresses with the Netgear switch having an IP address of 192.168.0.1

The bridged connection has the following properties under Windows:
IP Address: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
WINS Server:

Connecting the iPaq to the PC via the netwrok access connection and checking it's details with vxUtil gives under the ppp1 adapter:
IP Address: 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.252
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
(all the other settings are blank)

I'm completely out of things to try so any suggestions will help. If you need more info then just let me know and I'll do my best to provided it.

Thanks,
Mike

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#6872 27-Jun-2004 15:18

Have you tried with Norton disabled? When I had NIS installed in one of my computers, it would block the Bluetooth communications even with the whole range in the trusted zones.

Also, some of the Bluetooth software will communicate within your machine, so localhost should be in the trusted zones as well.

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#6877 27-Jun-2004 19:20

Yes, I've tried disabling NIS but it makes no difference.

I've also now added localhost (or 127.0.0.1) to the trusted zones but it's still not working.

The ip addresses have changed around since I've been playing with things but basically everthing is the same, bridged connection from Windows:
IP Address: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
WINS Server:

iPaq details from vxUtils:
IP Address: 192.168.0.7
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.248
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
(all the other settings are blank)

If I display the bluetooth network status and then use vxUtil's ping with 192.168.0.1 the number of sent packets increases by the number of times it sends a request, 5.

I downloaded Ethereal in order to have a look at what's going on:

No. Time Source Destination Protocol Info
1 0.000000 192.168.0.7 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
2 1.127861 192.168.0.7 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
3 1.299875 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 DNS Standard query PTR 1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
4 1.321848 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 DNS Standard query response, No such name
5 2.621068 192.168.0.7 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
6 4.135741 192.168.0.7 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
7 5.628927 192.168.0.7 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
8 19.250674 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.255 RIPv1 Response
9 20.050173 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 DNS Standard query PTR 255.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
10 20.070451 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 DNS Standard query response, No such name
11 24.845673 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
12 24.847042 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 ICMP Echo (ping) reply
13 25.846221 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
14 25.847429 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 ICMP Echo (ping) reply
15 26.846208 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
16 26.847463 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 ICMP Echo (ping) reply
17 27.846216 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 ICMP Echo (ping) request
18 27.847469 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 ICMP Echo (ping) reply
19 30.755791 192.168.0.2 Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.0.7? Tell 192.168.0.2
20 30.755861 192.168.0.7 Micro-St_af:e7:e3 ARP 192.168.0.7 is at 06:06:06:06:06:06
21 36.055381 192.168.0.2 Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.0.7? Tell 192.168.0.2
22 36.055452 192.168.0.7 Micro-St_af:e7:e3 ARP 192.168.0.7 is at 06:06:06:06:06:06
23 41.555468 192.168.0.2 Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.0.7? Tell 192.168.0.2
24 41.555555 192.168.0.7 Micro-St_af:e7:e3 ARP 192.168.0.7 is at 06:06:06:06:06:06
25 47.055588 192.168.0.2 Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.0.7? Tell 192.168.0.2
26 47.055667 192.168.0.7 Micro-St_af:e7:e3 ARP 192.168.0.7 is at 06:06:06:06:06:06
27 49.251647 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.255 RIPv1 Response

The first test (roughly 1 to 7 in the list) was a ping from the iPaq to the switch which show that the requests are getting through but there's no response. The second test (roughly 11 to 18 in the list) was a ping from the PC to the switch which were getting through and getting a response. The third test (roughly 19 to 26 in the list) was from the PC to the iPaq and it looks like there's some sort of problem but I don't understand enough to say more than that.

If I point the PC's Internet Explorer over to the switch and look at the DHCP table the iPaq (129.168.0.7) is there and comes and goes as I connect/disconnect it (sometimes it gets a different IP address but as I understand it that's to be expected as that's what DHCP does).

???

MikeC

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#6904 29-Jun-2004 03:12

Another quick question... is it possible to set the IP address, default gateway, etc. manually on the iPaq for the ppp1 adapter that vxUtils is claiming is being used? If so, how?

(When I look at the connections available there are three but these don't appear to be ppp1. They are listed by vxUtils but the entries for them have no values IIRC.)

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#6906 29-Jun-2004 07:21

If you have the iPAQ h3970 running Windows Mobile 2003, you can set your Bluetooth network to PAN on the desktop (set the configuration to Create Private Network), and then you'll be able to manually assign IP, gateway, DNS or use this from your DHCP server (if the Netgear has one).

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#6908 29-Jun-2004 07:39

I've got PocketPC 2002 running on the 3970, not had the inclination to upgrade. I take it then that it's not possible to set any of the IP settings under PocketPC 2002?

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#6909 29-Jun-2004 08:40

No, you can't. Pocket PC OS 2002 uses the LAP profile only, which is a PPP over Bluetooth - it will require the ICS on the desktop, and the special addresses, etc configured there.