Jackpoint removal and extend

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donaldjboyer

17 posts

Geek

#189138 17-Dec-2015 22:10

Hello,

I've recently moved into a new house and need to sort out the ADSL wiring.

There are 3 two-wire jack points. I have identified the main one which I need to move as it's behind the oven. Can I just eliminate the other two by pulling the wires off the main one?

I want to move the main jack point into a central location. Can I simply pull the wires that come in from the street and use ethernet cable to run to the new location? If so, would solder filled heat shrink connectors be OK to connect the ethernet cable to the wires coming in from the street?

So many questions!

Thanks in advance,

Donald.

InstallerUFB

840 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1452740 17-Dec-2015 23:38

Hi Donald

Is the jack point that is behind the store feed directly off the cable coming from off the street or is there a External test Point (ETP) first on the outside of the house?

You may be able to identify this by this jackpoint being feed with a black sheathed cable, commonly call UG lead or OA49, it can have either one or two pairs of wires (old colour code yellow/black, white/brown) - if it is not look for the ETP outside.

If it is directly feed then, dont remove it but leave it as a test/join point.

Do you have naked xDSL or do you have voice as well on your line ?

If naked then disconnect the wireing to the other jackpoints and run a new section of Cat5e from there to the location of the new jackpoint, if you dont want to use the connections on the back of the old jackpoint then get yourself some gel filled crimp connectors and join the wires inside the jkpt and just use the from plate as a cover.

If not naked (and you want to use the other jkpts for voice) then either install a hard wired spliter (master filter or master spliter) or have a spliter installed at the point of the first jkpt (normaly installed next to or instead of the jkpt in a shallow mounting block with a blank faseplate). Again with crimp connectors not soldered.

I hope this helps - ask away if your not sure and we will see if we can help

tely

donaldjboyer

17 posts

Geek

#1452743 18-Dec-2015 00:03

Hi Tely,

Yes the cable coming in is a black sheathed type. Can't remember the wire colours.

So I should leave the first jackpoint in place and use the next one in the chain (which is in a good location) and remove the un-used third jack point?

InstallerUFB

840 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1452748 18-Dec-2015 00:14

donaldjboyer: Hi Tely,

Yes the cable coming in is a black sheathed type. Can't remember the wire colours.

So I should leave the first jackpoint in place and use the next one in the chain (which is in a good location) and remove the un-used third jack point?

Yes leave the 'first' jkpt in place as a test/demarc point between your house wireing and the chorus incomeing line. You could just disconect the wireing for the third jkpt if you want too.

The quality of your DSL could/would be effected by the suitablity of the cabling from that first jkpt to the next one to handle DSL frequencys - older house wireing cables from before the 80s are bad and some from the 90s wernt much beter (low twist rates / cross talk / noise induction etc ok for voice but not much good for xDSL frequencys) - if you have the opertunity to replace with a cat5 cable or beter do so for the beter performance of xDSL

webwat

2036 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1459557 31-Dec-2015 15:38

You could check whether the black cable will reach to a better location for the first "test" jackpoint, but make sure the wires are reconnected exactly the same as before.

Then run a new cable from the new "test" location to the spot you want for the modem, or put the modem at the new "test" jack and run a new cable from there (basically a cable from RJ45 inlet to outlet) for any computers etc that need a LAN connection from the modem.

Heres a picture of my own test point and the bedroom outlet that has the modem. Note I still use the phone outlet, so theres a ADSL splitter hidden at the test point.

Time to find a new industry!