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#196207 23-May-2016 10:51
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Hey, i am designing my home network and would like to gather feedback if there is a better way i should do it. I haven't contemplated using VLAN's at the moment but if its something that is recommended then i could visit it. Network layout is as per below:

 


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  #1557816 23-May-2016 11:04
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I guess it depends on why you've set it up the way you have - e.g. why the two subnets - it makes things much harder if you want to talk to your other devices. Also, I'm not sure how you're going to connect your second switch (1.3) to your E400 mesh client. Another issue is that the E400 are monster APs - if your "downstairs" is a small area, then two E400s will be overkill. More info would help.

 

 

 

 




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  #1557825 23-May-2016 11:10
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The problem i have is there is no network link between the comms cabinet and where the video surveillance/alarm is located. The comms cabinet is also not too big so can only accommodate the gear i have boxed up above. I blame the builder for poor cabling and i bought the house after it was built so couldnt specify anything.


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  #1557870 23-May-2016 11:32
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My recommendation is to not use the 3rd port on the ER - instead have it on the same physical LAN as your main network (unless if you're actually wanting separate networks). I have the 3rd port of the ERL connected to my network only for other VLAN interfaces where the main eth1 interface only carries traffic from the LAN, there is no specific reason for this for me. If you have the AP on the 3rd port and need to access network resources you'll lose a tonne of throughput and find you'll be loading your ER for no reason.





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  #1557875 23-May-2016 11:39
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How does this look:

 

 

 


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  #1557994 23-May-2016 14:45
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I still don't understand how you will physically connect 192.168.1.5 (E400) to 192.168.1.6 (DGS1100-08p). There's one port on the E400, and even if you configure it to mesh, you'll need the port for power.

 

In any case, relying on a wireless solution between the comms cabinet and the rest of your downstairs area to then provide wired networking solutions for your alarm, video and Pi3 doesn't seem like the best idea. FWIW, and more learned gurus might have views on this, but you may be better off using a fast powerline solution that then connects to the E400 via a POE injector instead of a wireless link - particularly if you're looking for something reliable given that you're looking at an alarm and a video cam for surveillance. Not sure about how fast modern powerline solutions are, but it's probably likely to be more stable than a mesh option.

 

 

 

Is there no way in hell that you can run a CAT6 cable between your first switch and the rest of the downstairs area?

 

 

 

 


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  #1558000 23-May-2016 15:00
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The switch is POE so the E400 will plug to that

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  #1558064 23-May-2016 16:54
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t0ny: The switch is POE so the E400 will plug to that

 

 

 

Could you buy two cheaper non-POE switches, use injectors, and invest the savings in running CAT6 cabling? :)


 
 
 

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  #1558206 23-May-2016 20:19
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For me, wireless is for clients (point-to-point is an exception of course). Nothing would stop me from running the required cabling. The idea of any kind of wireless mesh makes me shudder.






 

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  #1558224 23-May-2016 20:54
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Running new cabling is really not an option. Iam going to use the mesh network for low bandwidth applications while things like iptv will run via the wired connection to the router. Will do some performance test once everything is configured to see how it goes

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  #1558236 23-May-2016 21:11
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Would definitely recommend looking at power line networking between instead of Wi-Fi

 

Are there any phone ports downstairs - likely you could use that for network or as a pull cable route


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  #1558883 24-May-2016 19:15
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t0ny: Running new cabling is really not an option. Iam going to use the mesh network for low bandwidth applications while things like iptv will run via the wired connection to the router. Will do some performance test once everything is configured to see how it goes


Where there's a will there's a way. But will be very interesting to see how you get on with mesh on the e400. My assumption is that it will be intolerably crap but who knows :) Make sure to report back.






 

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  #1558893 24-May-2016 19:29
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well it uses the 5ghz channel for the mesh communication so if most of your devices are on 2.4ghz


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  #1558896 24-May-2016 19:31
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So dose that take out 5ghz for clients?






 

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  #1558900 24-May-2016 19:35
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If you can't see a way to run cable ask someone like a good sparky or even a plumber, you might be surprised at the tricks you can pull... especially for the "right" network cable.

 

eg you can tuck it down behind the smooth edge and the wall, run it across the bottom a stair under the carpet , route out the back of some skirting, drop it down the exterior wall cavity... all sorts

 

hey I'm not saying this is ideal (or even 100% council approved, in the case of the cavity)... but it will be better than a mesh network.





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actually just looked and it seems you can use either for the backhaul, but i dont know what this means for the band that the client is on. does seem you could have clients on the same band though

 

also:
"There is a large throughput drop when using a radio for client access as well as mesh link (over 50%) since each packet would traverse the air twice, once from the client to the AP, then from the AP to its mesh peer."


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