Will a couple of AP's be sufficient here

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danepak

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Topic # 236043 14-May-2018 22:23

We’ve got a social club, where we’re trying to get the best possible WiFi coverage (without spending any money or hardly…).

We're having fibre installed within the next few weeks.

There’s a main router by the entrance in a wardrobe. This router (the main router) is connected to the 2nd router in a small office. The main router also has a network cable running to a small cabinet in the main hall (grey box). RJ45 face plate in the small cabinet. Furthermore, the library has also got an RJ45 faceplate (see small grey dot). This one is connected to the 2nd router. Currently, if I walk around, I get OK coverage in the library, if I’m connected to the 2nd router. If I move to the main hall, I need to switch network to the main router. In the kitchen, there’s more or less no coverage. My question is: If I have a wireless AP installed in the small cabinet in the main hall (the grey box) and another one in the library (the grey dot), can I then expect full coverage, without having to switch between networks (and will this also reach the kitchen)? Also, as the 2nd router currently is running on it’s own SSID, is it possible to change this, so we only use the SSID from the main router. The 2nd router would then instead act as a switch. I hope it all makes sense… Oh and one more question. No issue with using the RJ45 face plate in the main hall. However, in the library, any chance if it can be split? So it’s both used for the wireless AP and also if someone need to hardwire a device. I guess I would just use a small switch, right?

danepak

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Reply # 2016091 15-May-2018 00:03

I was thinking of a couple of these ones as access points.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1228/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LITE-Dual-band-AC1200-300867

I've noticed that they've got a network port.

Does it mean that I can hardwire another device to this access point?

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Reply # 2016100 15-May-2018 02:40

How big are those rooms? Get rid of the second router, as it is probably doing double NAT. And what model router is your main router? As An ISP supplied router might struggle if you have more than a few people in your club rooms at the same time. The Huawei HG695 for example has a limit of 32 devices that can be connected.

Ge0rge

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Reply # 2016105 15-May-2018 06:25

danepak:
I was thinking of a couple of these ones as access points.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1228/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LITE-Dual-band-AC1200-300867

I've noticed that they've got a network port.

Does it mean that I can hardwire another device to this access point?

The network port is to connect the AP to your router, and to provide power to the AP - they are a POE device. You can't connect another device by wire to the AP.

I have two of those APs on my property and they provide extensive cover. Judiciously placed, I would expect them to work well for you.

Crowdie

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Reply # 2016520 15-May-2018 21:16

How many wireless devices do you need to support and where will they be? For example, 100 wireless devices with 50 expected in the main hall.

danepak

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Reply # 2016523 15-May-2018 21:19

Crowdie:

How many wireless devices do you need to support and where will they be? For example, 100 wireless devices with 50 expected in the main hall.

Not many. Generally we're talking 10-20 at the extreme maximum.

danepak

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Reply # 2016525 15-May-2018 21:20

Ge0rge:
danepak:

I was thinking of a couple of these ones as access points.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1228/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LITE-Dual-band-AC1200-300867

I've noticed that they've got a network port.

Does it mean that I can hardwire another device to this access point?

The network port is to connect the AP to your router, and to provide power to the AP - they are a POE device. You can't connect another device by wire to the AP.

I have two of those APs on my property and they provide extensive cover. Judiciously placed, I would expect them to work well for you.

OK, so if I have a network cable running from the router to the cabinet, I'll obviously connect this to the AP.

For power, I'll just use the PoE injector, right? Sorry, never seen one before. Does it just plug into normal power? (I haven't got a PoE switch).

Crowdie

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Reply # 2016527 15-May-2018 21:25

danepak:

Crowdie:

How many wireless devices do you need to support and where will they be? For example, 100 wireless devices with 50 expected in the main hall.

Not many. Generally we're talking 10-20 at the extreme maximum.

With only 10 to 20 wireless devices needing to be supported you just need to ensure the access points provide coverage across the areas requiring coverage with an RSSI of -72 dBm or greater.

If you needed to support 100 devices, for example, then you would need at least three access points (100 devices / 3 access points = 33 devices per access point) to ensure throughput.

Crowdie

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Reply # 2016528 15-May-2018 21:27

danepak:

Ge0rge:
danepak:

I was thinking of a couple of these ones as access points.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1228/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LITE-Dual-band-AC1200-300867

I've noticed that they've got a network port.

Does it mean that I can hardwire another device to this access point?

The network port is to connect the AP to your router, and to provide power to the AP - they are a POE device. You can't connect another device by wire to the AP.

I have two of those APs on my property and they provide extensive cover. Judiciously placed, I would expect them to work well for you.

OK, so if I have a network cable running from the router to the cabinet, I'll obviously connect this to the AP.

For power, I'll just use the PoE injector, right? Sorry, never seen one before. Does it just plug into normal power? (I haven't got a PoE switch).

If you don't have a PoE switch you will need a PoE injector per access point. The injector will take a power cable into one side and will have two Ethernet ports on the other side. One of the Ethernet ports will say "to network" (or similar) and this should be cabled to the switch. The other Ethernet port will say "power + data" (or similar) and this should be cabled to the access point.

danepak

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Reply # 2016533 15-May-2018 21:32

Crowdie:

danepak:

Ge0rge:
danepak:

I was thinking of a couple of these ones as access points.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1228/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LITE-Dual-band-AC1200-300867

I've noticed that they've got a network port.

Does it mean that I can hardwire another device to this access point?

The network port is to connect the AP to your router, and to provide power to the AP - they are a POE device. You can't connect another device by wire to the AP.

I have two of those APs on my property and they provide extensive cover. Judiciously placed, I would expect them to work well for you.

OK, so if I have a network cable running from the router to the cabinet, I'll obviously connect this to the AP.

For power, I'll just use the PoE injector, right? Sorry, never seen one before. Does it just plug into normal power? (I haven't got a PoE switch).

If you don't have a PoE switch you will need a PoE injector per access point. The injector will take a power cable into one side and will have two Ethernet ports on the other side. One of the Ethernet ports will say "to network" (or similar) and this should be cabled to the switch. The other Ethernet port will say "power + data" (or similar) and this should be cabled to the access point.

Cool, so in the cabinet, there will already be an RJ45 wall plate. There's also power in the cabinet. So power goes into the wall socket and on the other side of the PoE injector, I can connect the 'to network' to the RJ45 wall plate, as this goes back to the router?

And in the library, I'll do the same, but instead of plugging it directly into the RJ45 wall plate, I'll plug a switch into this wall plate. Then I can use one switch socket for the PoE injector and then use another socket for a hardwired connection to a laptop, correct?