Fiber & Modem Question

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graham007

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#248224 15-Mar-2019 13:38

Hi I have a small question

So we just got a new fiber connection, which has a box on the wall inside the house, which is then plugged into the modem

Now this box has more ethernet ports, so i wanted to know if i buy a third party modem from store, can i plug it into the fiber box? will the modem then be capable of getting internet, or will it not work ?

i just thought i will use a 2nd powerful modem for pushing wifi into the back rooms, as the current rooms dont get enough from existing modem which is given by supplier,

cheers,

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#2198580 15-Mar-2019 13:43

one internet connection, one router plugged into port 1 on the ONT

there is no such thing as a modem in the fibre world its a router

anything you want plugged in needs to go through your router

graham007

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#2198590 15-Mar-2019 13:47

oh ok , thanks

in that case

can i get some sort of a splitter box / device so that

fiber box - ethernet wire - splitter - multiple output ports - i can plug in any no of routers? will that work in theory ?

also another question, i have spark supplied standard modem / router, is there a better one available at noel leeming which i can buy which will help improve speed and radius of coverage , please advice, thanks heaps,

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#2198595 15-Mar-2019 13:51

no as i said you need to plug everything in via the router, it routes the traffic to the internet. can go device > switch > router > ONT but the last 2 steps meed to be router > ONT

if you want more coverage buy an access point or 2.

graham007

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#2198600 15-Mar-2019 13:53

Jase2985:

no as i said you need to plug everything in via the router, it routes the traffic to the internet. can go device > switch > router > ONT but the last 2 steps meed to be router > ONT

if you want more coverage buy an access point or 2.

thanks jase , can you guide me were i can get access point and if its easy to install myself, thanks,

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#2198643 15-Mar-2019 13:58

A really user friendly option is Ubiquiti Amplifi

Depending on the size of your house, you might only need the router.

I live in a 120 m2 house and only need the router and not the kit with router and repeaters.

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graham007

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#2198649 15-Mar-2019 14:01

jarledb:

A really user friendly option is Ubiquiti Amplifi

Depending on the size of your house, you might only need the router.

I live in a 120 m2 house and only need the router and not the kit with router and repeaters.

Thanks Jareledb, any recommendation from noel leeming store, just cause have a voucher and dont wanna waste it.

ideally i want something which can tie into existing modem/router and spread the wifi,

if its totally new then i will have to re-do the whole setup,

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#2198652 15-Mar-2019 14:03

There are heaps of threads here covering your various options including:

* 'extenders', 'repeaters' or similarly-named devices (general recommendation will be to avoid these)

* Powerline adapters, which use the internal wiring of your house to transmit your signal

* mesh systems like the Google Wifi, which have the benefit of being wireless so easier to install

* repurposing an old router as a second access point, running an Ethernet cable between the main router and this (this is cheap but can be frustrating; best to avoid if you're even slightly technophobic)

* installing proper access points like Unifi Ubiquiti products, which again require connecting to the router via Ethernet cable, and will often be installed on a ceiling

If you give an idea of your budget and technical abilities, and even the exact nature of what you're trying to achieve, you'll probably find people here can recommend options that may be more suitable than others.

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graham007

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#2198674 15-Mar-2019 14:11

thanks

budget is around $500

as for tech capabilities - i can do some configuring , setting up manually, install software, but i cannot run cables under or over the house etc,

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#2198692 15-Mar-2019 14:21

if you cant run cables try a mesh setup, no wires to run and should provide pretty good speeds. also allos dirrect connections to the satellites

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#2198727 15-Mar-2019 14:36

Yep, given you can't run cable in the house I agree mesh sounds like the best bet for you.

And, given you've got NL vouchers you want to spend, just try searching for 'mesh' on their site and it'll pull up a number of potential products, eg Google Wifi, Netgear Orbi etc

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/search.html?q=mesh#sortOrder=rel&page=1&layout=grid

I don't have mesh gear, but I recall many other threads discussing the relative merits of the technology and specific models so perhaps search and you'll find a bunch of threads that are relevant to this (Google really is your friend in these circumstances!):

https://www.google.com/search?q=mesh+wifi+site%3Ageekzone.co.nz

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#2198747 15-Mar-2019 14:52

jonathan18:

Yep, given you can't run cable in the house I agree mesh sounds like the best bet for you.

And, given you've got NL vouchers you want to spend, just try searching for 'mesh' on their site and it'll pull up a number of potential products, eg Google Wifi, Netgear Orbi etc

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/search.html?q=mesh#sortOrder=rel&page=1&layout=grid

I don't have mesh gear, but I recall many other threads discussing the relative merits of the technology and specific models so perhaps search and you'll find a bunch of threads that are relevant to this (Google really is your friend in these circumstances!):

https://www.google.com/search?q=mesh+wifi+site%3Ageekzone.co.nz

thanks so much :)

graham007

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#2198749 15-Mar-2019 14:53

question

a one unit google wifi : https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/computers-tablets/accessories/networking-equipment/google-ga00157-au-wifi-single-pack/prod157266.html

will this be any good, connected to a spark supplied modem / router , or do i have to buy a whole 3 pack please?

thanks for all your answers , appreciate your kind help :)

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#2198792 15-Mar-2019 15:19

A single Google Wifi would work, but not establish a 'mesh' network, which can only happen if you're using two or more. Ie, you'd plug one into your router; if you didn't get at least a second all this would do is provide wifi from the same spot as your current router is already doing (so not solve your problem).

But then adding additional Wifi units would create the mesh network, and you'd place these in other parts of the house to ensure good coverage throughout. How many you'll need will depend on your particular circs, though there are guides that may help you work out how many (and where to place them). It'll be cheaper to buy them as a pack up-front rather than having to buy additional ones (and this is why they sell individual units, ie to expand the size/improve the quality of the mesh network). So clearly you're after either a pack of two at least.

Edit - sorry, I see there's actually nil saving from buying in 'bulk', ie the three-pack is three times that of the single! And there's not a pack of two. While Pricespy doesn't actually even list NL as a seller of the three-pack (so we can't see what the lowest price they've done on this), I see HN has sold them as of a few days ago reduced to $527, so assume NL has had similar discounts. (https://classic.pricespy.co.nz/product.php?pu=4393157)

Google provides explanations on their site, eg https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/7182746?hl=en&ref_topic=7216602

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#2198883 15-Mar-2019 16:51

I wouldn’t recommend the Google WiFi. Instead grab the Orbi or the TP-Link Deco and be done with it. The Google WiFi has some privacy concerns as well as no ability to hook directly up to your ONT (the Chorus fibre thing on the wall).

Essentially you’d replace the Spark router with either the Orbi or Deco. Grab the multi packs and mesh them.

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graham007

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#2198886 15-Mar-2019 17:00

michaelmurfy: I wouldn’t recommend the Google WiFi. Instead grab the Orbi or the TP-Link Deco and be done with it. The Google WiFi has some privacy concerns as well as no ability to hook directly up to your ONT (the Chorus fibre thing on the wall).

Essentially you’d replace the Spark router with either the Orbi or Deco. Grab the multi packs and mesh them.

thanks for helping out with so much info

so if i get the orbi, i would have to replace the existing spark modem?

i thought mesh system added on to the existing network !??

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