Ethernet in new house build - how to get it to work?

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stickyglue

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# 249416 9-May-2019 19:43

Hi everyone, first time poster here. I'm pretty useless so bear with me... I recently built a home and have wifi up and running with fibre. I have a box in my garage with a lot of plugs, something to do with my fibre. I have a router by my TV working that has 2 ethernet ports near it, one of them plugged in right now to the router (no idea what the free ethernet plug is for?). When I try to plug in an ethernet cable into an ethernet port somewhere else in the house (not the router) nothing happens. I can only get wifi, not an ethernet connection somewhere else is the house.

Do I need to plug an ethernet cable from the router into the spare ethernet plug?

I would greatly appreciate any assistance or ideas. I could upload photos of anything if you need it. My router is a NF18ACV

andrewNZ

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# 2233970 9-May-2019 19:54

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The ethernet plugs in the house should all go back to the panel in the garage (if you're lucky they'll be labeled at each end). They are just like ethernet cables but in the walls and have female plugs so you can plug in to them easier. They're not complicated, you can think of them a bit like water pipes.

The existing cable in the lounge will be connected to the ONT (fiber box) in the garage with a cable from one of the ports in the panel.

You will need to plug the other ethernet port in the lounge into the modem in the lounge.
You will need an ethernet switch in the garage panel. A TP link switch is cheap and works well.

You plug a cable between a port on the new ethernet switch and the port that goes to the modem in the lounge. That gets internet to the switch.

Then you plug a cable between the switch and any port in the garage that goes to a plug you want internet.

Location: Dunedin

stickyglue

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# 2233977 9-May-2019 20:10

andrewNZ: The ethernet plugs in the house should all go back to the panel in the garage (if you're lucky they'll be labeled at each end). They are just like ethernet cables but in the walls and have female plugs so you can plug in to them easier. They're not complicated, you can think of them a bit like water pipes.

The existing cable in the lounge will be connected to the ONT (fiber box) in the garage with a cable from one of the ports in the panel.

You will need to plug the other ethernet port in the lounge into the modem in the lounge.
You will need an ethernet switch in the garage panel. A TP link switch is cheap and works well.

You plug a cable between a port on the new ethernet switch and the port that goes to the modem in the lounge. That gets internet to the switch.

Then you plug a cable between the switch and any port in the garage that goes to a plug you want internet.

Thank you so much for your reply. Do I already have a TP link switch? It looks like one in there from a quick google search. I took a photo of what I have in the ONT.

Cabinet photo link: https://photos.app.goo.gl/C1PjQ5pVELnLZpgQ9

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# 2233985 9-May-2019 20:27

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You have no switch. What you think is a switch is a patch panel. Cable runs terminate on the patch panel.

stickyglue

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# 2234117 9-May-2019 21:06

Spyware:

You have no switch. What you think is a switch is a patch panel. Cable runs terminate on the patch panel.

Cheers! So would something like this work? https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHTPL1007/TP-Link-TL-SG1005D-5-Port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switch

Also, if I only wanted one ethernet port working in the house, could I just run an ethernet port in the ONT from the incoming router patch panel plug to the port I need? Or do I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Ruphus

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# 2234119 9-May-2019 21:10

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That switch would work, or something similar to these;

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHDLK105/D-Link-DGS-105-5-Port-Gigabit-Switch-Metal-Housing

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHDLK108/D-Link-DGS-108-8-Port-Gigabit-Switch-Metal-Housing

Only because they are smaller and would fit better in your hub (especially the 5-port one).

Edit: Clarifying I was just talking about the switch, you'll still need to do what Spyware says below.

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# 2234125 9-May-2019 21:16

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You can't use any other ports than the current port on the Chorus ONT, ONT ports are reserved for additional ISP services. Choices re expanding data to around house are either shifting the router (has switch on LAN side) back to the cabinet and installing a wireless access point where router currently is or installing a switch in the cabinet and running a cable from the LAN side on router back to the switch (in order to route the traffic). If only one cable run to router location (currently goes to router WAN interface) then would need to use splitters (2 x 100 Mbps circuits) or have second cable run available for the LAN side traffic.

page 54 onwards, scenario 3 (router in cabinet) or scenario 5 (switch in cabinet).

https://www.tcf.org.nz/assets/guidelines/tcf-premises-wiring-cable-installers-guidelines-endorsed-oct-2015.pdf

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# 2234131 9-May-2019 21:28

similar discussion here

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=238218

sqishy

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# 2234132 9-May-2019 21:29

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Whats the router called next to your TV? Does this have spare ports on it? If so...

That board at the top is called a patch panel which runs a cable to each outlet.

The white cable is the one that gets to you router (WAN port) this gets you the internet and wifi.

One way if you want to get ethernet to the other rooms you need to run say a network cable from the spare Router LAN port back to the spare wall port next to the one on the TV

This will run down to one of the the ports on the patch panel (normally electricians number them at end end)

You then need another small network cable to jumper the patch panel over to the another patch panel socket which will send ethernet back to the house.

This method would get you one extra room. A switch in the garage can get ethernet to all rooms.

stickyglue

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# 2234133 9-May-2019 21:30

Ruphus:

That would work, or something similar to these;

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHDLK105/D-Link-DGS-105-5-Port-Gigabit-Switch-Metal-Housing

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHDLK108/D-Link-DGS-108-8-Port-Gigabit-Switch-Metal-Housing

Only because they are smaller and would fit better in your hub (especially the 5-port one).

Thanks for the help everyone! I'll give it a go. Really appreciate the help

sqishy

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# 2234135 9-May-2019 21:43

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Pretty crude but you need something like....

Ruphus

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# 2234136 9-May-2019 21:45

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Just saw in your first photo that you only had 3 other ports on the patch panel wired up so an 8-port switch is 4 more ports than you need. Just go with a 5-port switch as it's cheaper.

The cable that plugs into the wall from the router, how many ports are in the wall? Is there a spare one or can you post a photo of it? Hopefully there's more than one port.

sqishy

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# 2234144 9-May-2019 21:55

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Ruphus:

Just saw in your first photo that you only had 3 other ports on the patch panel wired up so an 8-port switch is 4 more ports than you need. Just go with a 5-port switch as it's cheaper.

The cable that plugs into the wall from the router, how many ports are in the wall? Is there a spare one or can you post a photo of it? Hopefully there's more than one port.

Good point on the patch panel only has Ports 1 3 5 7 go to the house Port 2 4 6 8 not used so on my picture you would rub out #5.Port 7 is the Router Wan then my 2 3 4 are your 1 3 5 at patch

stickyglue

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# 2234152 9-May-2019 22:10

You guys are amazing, thanks so much for the help. Yes I have a "spare" port on the wall by the TV. So I'll plug that one into my router and get a 5 port switch in my ONT in the garage to connect up the rest of the house. The drawing was really helpful sqishy

sqishy

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# 2234154 9-May-2019 22:14

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stickyglue:

You guys are amazing, thanks so much for the help. Yes I have a "spare" port on the wall by the TV. So I'll plug that one into my router and get a 5 port switch in my ONT in the garage to connect up the rest of the house. The drawing was really helpful sqishy

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