Problems setting up bluetooth, so PDA can access the net.

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#2669 2-Nov-2004 09:05

Been trying to get my PDA to access the internet from my main system through bluetooth.

Here is the hardware/software im using

PDA : HP 2210
Software : Blue Manager 3.1b

I went through the menus to set up the internet connection, then got to the stage where it needs 2 choose a device to get the internet from.

I selected my PC (which is recognised by the PDA) then it says "waiting for the device" then "the requested service is not running on the device. Please make sure the service is enabled on the device or select another one to continue".

So I went into blue manager, right clicked the device and set it to "trust device" it then asks me to enter a unique passkey, which i did, then it brings up a new window on the PDA asking for the pass key, which I entered but there was no "OK" button, only the cancel button! also hitting the ENTER key just sent it back to the select a device page.

I looked at the guide on here but as I am on XP SP1 and the guide was written for 2000 I am having problems translating it.

I tried enabling ICS in "bluetooth lan connection manager" under network connections but it brings up an error because I have ICS set up so multiple pcs can access the broadband connection through a router and it wants the IP address that I use for my other connections.

Also the guide doesnt mention anything about the "bluetooth lan connection manager" but instead just the main NIC card, but I have no ICS box to tick in there :(

Where have I gone wrong? I cant work it out :(

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#9782 2-Nov-2004 09:09

BlueManager is the software on your computer, right? Do you have a link to it, or a specification manual? It doesn't sound like it supports Internet sharing through LAP (Lan Access profile). You have to confirm this...

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#9783 2-Nov-2004 09:37

Yep thats right (sorry I forgot to say)

This is the description given

XTNDConnect Blue Manager for Windows

XTNDConnect Blue Manager is a Bluetooth communication software application that enables users to manage their wireless personal area network (WPAN) from a single, easy-to-use program. It allows users to wirelessly interact with and manage remote Bluetooth devices. With XTNDConnect Blue Manager, users can discover devices, browse folders, and exchange files with remote devices. Additionally, the application loads virtual COM ports, enabling users to perform wireless Dial-up Networking, LAN Access and serial based functions with Bluetooth supported mobile phones, modems and access points.

Then under further information for Wireless Connections it says

Wireless Connections - Serial, Dial-up, FAX, LAN

The Bluetooth profiles Serial, Dial-up Networking (DUN), FAX, and LAN are based on serial data flow through the RFCOMM portion of the Bluetooth stack. Each one of these profiles is assigned a unique COM port in the Windows environment. When an application is associated with one of these COM ports, the Bluetooth stack will begin to advertise support for this profile. Service Discovery (SDP) requests will return saying that the profile exists. For this feature to work properly, the install process pre-designates a unique COM port for the following profiles: DUN, LAN, FAX, Serial Server and Serial Client (Serial Host and Client are both under the Serial profile).

In the Windows environment, the Bluetooth COM port assignments occur after a Plug and Play event causes the Bluetooth drivers to be loaded and configured.
The Dial-up Networking interface utilizes the DUN application provided within the Windows Operating System.
The LAN point-to-point connection is supported through a dial-less modem that does not send telephone AT commands.

I presume that can do the job?

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#9784 2-Nov-2004 09:51

It should do the job. You still need ICS. The guide was written on Windows 2000, but the technology is the same - just a couple of screens are different. On Windows XP, right-click the network adapter and instead of a Sharing tab you'll see and Advanced tab. There you can configure the Windows Firewall and below it the Internet Connection Sharing. From this point is all the same.

The dialogs corresponding to the Bluetooth application will be different because the BlueManager is another software, not Widcomm. But again, same principle applies: make sure it's configured to accept connections, devices are paired, no firewall is blocking communications (including the Windows XP Service Pack 2 firewall), and that ICS is establishe from the adapter facing the Internet to the Bluetooth adapter (that is if the BlueManager did create this adapter).

In case the BlueManager does not create a virtual adapter... Well then we'll have to come up with something else...

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#9785 2-Nov-2004 10:15

I dont get the extra option for ICS I only get

http://www.khlmporte27.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lan1.JPG

Though I do have the ICS option under bluetooth lan connection manager in network connections

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#9786 2-Nov-2004 10:18

Do you have a second network adapter, a Bluetooth named one? It doesn't look like the BlueSpace software added the required network elements to create this...

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#9787 2-Nov-2004 10:22

http://www.khlmporte27.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/connections.JPG

There is a list of all my devices, do I apply these settings to bluetooth lan connection manager as they are not in my normal LAN connection?

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#9789 2-Nov-2004 10:35

I think that, like Windows XP Service Pack 2, BlueManager is a client-only, not a server...

If this is the case, then your computer can only connect to another computer with a server software or to a Bluetooth Access Point. It can't be used as a server for other devices.

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#9790 2-Nov-2004 10:40

Oh :(

What software can I use that will enable me to use it as a server?

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#9791 2-Nov-2004 10:45

Bluetooth adapters based on Widcomm software will allows sharing of network and Internet. You can't use the software with other hardware though.