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#272775 15-Jul-2020 10:57
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Hey everyone,

I'm new here. It was suggested to me to ask my query here as there are some experienced users.

I live in the country and work from home on a 12Mbp/s down and 1Mbp/s up adsl connection. As I have no cell reception I use VoIP to talk with clients. I've got kids here for the holidays and they're messing up my connection.

I'm currently with Orcon and in their modem I can limit the WiFi, typically I limit it to 5.5Mbp/s or if I'm a grump I turn it off or limit it to 2Mbp/s so they can at least watch Netflix on low res. I use ethernet to the modem so I'm not affected when limiting the WiFi module. My wife and I also like to play FPS games in the evening and you need decent ping for those. We get about 30ms when nobody is on the network, when we limit to 5.5 and the kids are streaming our ping sits steadily around 50ms which is fine, but as soon as someone send a photo or something it spikes up to 400ms+

The main problem is that even with the WiFi limited, if one of their phones starts backing up to the cloud it completely kills the connection and makes my work difficult - particularly annoying when speaking with clients on VoIP - because I can't specifically limit the upload speed as the modem settings only allow to limit up/down as low as 1Mbp/s and that's the full upstream speed available.

I'm wondering if there is a modem out there I can purchase where I can specifically limit the upload speeds on the WiFi module so that even if they start video chatting or backing up to the cloud on the WiFi network, it doesn't completely kill my connection, yet it will allows them a half decent downstream limit.

Ideally I would like to limit the download speed on the WiFi network to about 5Mbp/s and limit the upload to about 0.5Mbp/s, that way they can still share half of the downstream on WiFi and half of the upstream. I've tried QoS prioritisation but it doesn't work well at all, I'd really just like to limit the WiFi module as I'm always hardwired, including my VoIP phone. None of the kids are connected via ethernet.

Anyone know of a modem that can do this? I'd like to stay with Orcon but switching providers is an option if it means I can run this setup, or just disable WiFi and plug in an access point that provides this functionality.


Cheers


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  #2523404 15-Jul-2020 11:23
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I've used settings like this in TP-Link routers to achieve what you're looking for.

 

Capping the upload really helped stop the ADSL getting crippled by one 'strong' upload.

 

 

 

See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVH58qSlda4

 

 


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  #2523471 15-Jul-2020 12:41
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@MOOSEcannoN Have you looked into 2degrees Wi-Fi calling if you have no mobile coverage at home?

 

Fantastic service 


 
 
 
 


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  #2523474 15-Jul-2020 12:43
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Unifi allows this (you need a cloudkey though) and each wifi device can be assigned to a group with limited upload speed

 

 

 

 


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  #2523519 15-Jul-2020 14:13
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Linux:

 

Have you looked into 2degrees Wi-Fi calling if you have no mobile coverage at home?

 

Fantastic service 

 

 

Does the 2 degrees Fritzbox7590 allow upload rate limiting, e.g. setting up a guest network that has limited bandwidth?


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  #2523520 15-Jul-2020 14:18
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jonb:

 

Linux:

 

Have you looked into 2degrees Wi-Fi calling if you have no mobile coverage at home?

 

Fantastic service 

 

 

Does the 2 degrees Fritzbox7590 allow upload rate limiting, e.g. setting up a guest network that has limited bandwidth?

 

 

@jonb I'm sure it does, Will check when home




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  #2523540 15-Jul-2020 15:11
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Dairyxox:

 

I've used settings like this in TP-Link routers to achieve what you're looking for.

 

Capping the upload really helped stop the ADSL getting crippled by one 'strong' upload.

 

 

 

See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVH58qSlda4

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, this looks like a good solution. I can just set myself a static IP outside of the DHCP range that doesn't have the throttling.

 

I can see that can be applied to ADSL (WAN), I wonder if this can be applied to WiFi only. I presume it can using the 'Other' option.


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  #2523862 16-Jul-2020 00:50
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VOIP packets are supposed to have the DSCP priority bits set in the headers marking them as real time packets.  Of course, not all VOIP software actually does that, but it pays to get out Wireshark and have a look.  Then there are quite a few routers that will actually obey the DSCP bits and give the packets marked as real time priority over all other packets - other packets will be dropped in order to get real time packets through, and real time packets will be put at the head of the queue.  But you normally have to find the options in your router to turn on DSCP handling.  It is rarely called that - it may be lurking somewhere as a VOIP priority option.  On my EdgeRouter ER4 I have this set up properly so that the high priority packets are passed on to my Chorus ONT in such a way that the ONT codes them as high priority as well.  It was a very obscure option to make that happen.  Once coded properly on a fibre, the packets are sent using the CIR guaranteed bandwidth so that they will have priority over any other users of my fibre backhaul as well.  CIR bandwidth is not in contention - you always have at least that much available no matter how flooded the fibre connection is.  I believe a gigabit fibre connection has a CIR of 2.5 Mbit/s these days - enough for lots of VOIP connections.  Unfortunately, I do not think ADSL connections provide that service, but I might be wrong these days - it is a long time now since I was on ADSL.  Once the packets get to your ISP, it is very likely that their routers will also obey the DSCP bits if they have VOIP as a service they provide.

 

If anyone with an EdgeRouter wants the option to translate DSCP into fibre priority, this is it:

 

set interfaces ethernet eth0 vif 10 egress-qos '1:5 2:5 3:5 4:5 6:5 7:5'

 
 
 
 




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  #2524543 17-Jul-2020 09:34
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Thanks all.

 

 

 

I ended up getting an AP where it let me limit the up/down rates for an IP range. I just limited it for the DHCP range and then assigned IPs to specific mac's outside that range, so our devices aren't limited and all other devices are.

 

Tested it out with some gaming last night. The kids were on their phones, netflix on the TV etc. (all limited) and we were gaming happy with 35ms and no lag spikes.

 

Stoked. Thanks for all your input!


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  #2524623 17-Jul-2020 11:24
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Grandstream GWN7610 Access points do exactly what you are asking for here. You can have a specific wifi SSID for the kids and set rate limits for it. You can also have a guest SSID and rate limit it appropriately.


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