I need to move two ONT boxes and don't know where to start.

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#281399 15-Feb-2021 20:29

Hi all,

I'm about to move across my suburb to a larger house and rent my family home out. I have fibre at both properties and need to temporarily move them. One is to reclad a wall and one because the installation is just in the crappiest arrangement possible. Is it a call to chorus, or the fibre simply plugs in like a TOS cable inside? TIA.

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#2657070 15-Feb-2021 20:36

You need to order the move through your ISP so you have to have an active connection

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#2657071 15-Feb-2021 20:36

Generally a call to the RSP, but are you planning to move it and use it during the reclad? or just get it out of the way and have it reconnected after work is complete?

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#2657077 15-Feb-2021 20:42

snnet:

Generally a call to the RSP, but are you planning to move it and use it during the reclad? or just get it out of the way and have it reconnected after work is complete?

Thanks. I thought this was the case which is why I wonder why they install them in the worst places for home maintenance. Going without internet seems like torture these days.

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#2657142 15-Feb-2021 21:37

We will need to do this if we buy a place we're looking at - ONT in the bedroom, black fibre tacked down a white wall all the way from the ceiling!

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#2657162 15-Feb-2021 22:12

deadlyllama: We will need to do this if we buy a place we're looking at - ONT in the bedroom, black fibre tacked down a white wall all the way from the ceiling!.

Why does this not surprise me

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#2657212 16-Feb-2021 06:48

nztim:
deadlyllama: We will need to do this if we buy a place we're looking at - ONT in the bedroom, black fibre tacked down a white wall all the way from the ceiling!.

Why does this not surprise me

Yeah, now that I think of it I didn't see an ETP either, the aerial feed goes straight into the ceiling cavity.

Is there some process to remediate historical fibre installs which never complied with chorus standards?

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#2657213 16-Feb-2021 07:05

Our rural fibre install has no ETP on the house. This was installed December last year.
There’s a box on the pole on the street where the aerial fibre comes from, goes across the lawn to where a power pole is and wraps around that and then to the house. There is something on the power pole that is holding the fibre and also something similar on the roof of the house. Then it goes through a small box before going into the roof space. Inside the ceiling it just runs across the top of the insulation and then into the room where the ONT is located. The fibre is just tacked along the ceiling and down the corner of the room, alongside an Ethernet cable that was there when we moved in.
It’s just one long run of fibre all the way from the pole on the street.

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#2657261 16-Feb-2021 07:29

Hi Cyabro, the small box on the side of the house is the Etp the others have noted as missing in some installs, whilst from a technical aspect its not a problem if its missing from a practical point of view it's good practice.

As for the two device's on the pole and house those will be simply attachment devices that manage the physical loading of the cable.

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#2657268 16-Feb-2021 07:56

cyril7: Hi Cyabro, the small box on the side of the house is the Etp the others have noted as missing in some installs, whilst from a technical aspect its not a problem if its missing from a practical point of view it's good practice.

As for the two device's on the pole and house those will be simply attachment devices that manage the physical loading of the cable.

Cyril

I thought the ETP would actually have a connection point in it like the old copper lines?
The fibre cable just passes through it

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#2657278 16-Feb-2021 08:34

CYaBro:
cyril7: Hi Cyabro, the small box on the side of the house is the Etp the others have noted as missing in some installs, whilst from a technical aspect its not a problem if its missing from a practical point of view it's good practice.

As for the two device's on the pole and house those will be simply attachment devices that manage the physical loading of the cable.

Cyril

I thought the ETP would actually have a connection point in it like the old copper lines?
The fibre cable just passes through it

ETPs for copper were introduced in the early 1990s prior to that the black lead-in cable went to the first jackpoint

All Fiber connections should have an ETP, some of them are not on the exterior of the house and are either the in the roof cavity or in the crawl space

Sounds like in @deadlyllama case , they may not have installed an ETP and all and just ran microduct to the ONT

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#2657281 16-Feb-2021 08:38

Hi normally at the ETP the blown fibre is spliced to an internal fibre cable, however in an aerial situation the drop is normally an exterior rated cable with a pre terminated connector at the pole, but again as its a hard sheath cable I would presume at the ETP it would transition via a splice to a more manageable internal cable and onward to the ONT, where as usual a further splice in the rear of the ONT transitions to a pre terminated fly lead.

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#2657283 16-Feb-2021 08:41

cyril7:

Hi normally at the ETP the blown fibre is spliced to an internal fibre cable, however in an aerial situation the drop is normally an exterior rated cable with a pre terminated connector at the pole, but again as its a hard sheath cable I would presume at the ETP it would transition via a splice to a more manageable internal cable and onward to the ONT, where as usual a further splice in the rear of the ONT transitions to a pre terminated fly lead.

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#2657331 16-Feb-2021 09:44

Sorry I’ve hijacked Ropata’s post.
Mods can you split my stuff into a new topic?

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#2658121 17-Feb-2021 11:20

Here's a picture of the "ETP" for our new fibre connection.

The black cable is the fibre and it is one continuous run from the box on the pole at the street all the way to the ONT in the house.

You can also see the old copper ETP there, the copper was removed at the same time the fibre was installed as we weren't using it anyway.

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#2658123 17-Feb-2021 11:28

Hi, so have you actually seen inside to confirm the cable is unbroken and just moves through, or is there infact a splice as there should be so that it can be re done if needed.

Obviously it makes not a bit of difference from a tech perspective but I think its required by Chorus's install spec and makes functional sense.

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