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danepak

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#289567 13-Sep-2021 14:08
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Might be a dumb question, but can you get shelves to work with these holes?
Would be nice to actually be able to tidy this up, instead of it just hanging.
Or is the only solution cable ties?


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  #2777539 13-Sep-2021 14:16
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While I have not seen a masive number of these comms cupboards in modern homes, I've never seen one deep enough for a router or switch to sit on a shelf with cables plugged in.  Cable ties might be your best bet.  Remember you can connect several cable ties together in line to wrap around routers.  You can also loop a cable tie between two holes to make a loop that other cable ties can thread through.





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  #2777543 13-Sep-2021 14:21
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Thanks.
The router (not visible on this photo) can actually fit in the comms board (if it’s at the bottom).
So I don’t see why it wouldn’t fit on a shelf.
So I assume that shelves to exist for this? If so, what model should I look for?

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  #2777544 13-Sep-2021 14:23
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Hi, firstly do you have ceiling access directly above, if it was me I would move all the coax cables back to the ceiling, the Kingray amp could go their too. How often do you change or modify the TV cabling, my bet is never or maybe once every 5yrs. This is why whenever I install these things i always place the TV hub in the ceiling close to the person hole so its easy to access.

 

As for the switch, and I presume the router is somewhere there dangling out of the box, but you can get these to mount things on. What router do you have.

 

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  #2777813 13-Sep-2021 19:06
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Mine are all cable tied in. took a little bit but i think it looks reasonably tidy.

 


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  #2777824 13-Sep-2021 19:43
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Jase2985:

Mine are all cable tied in. took a little bit but i think it looks reasonably tidy.



Very tidy! Is it easy to get the device out, if required? And can you insert it again without using new cable ties?

Also, a battery??? For what? (Sorry, just curious).

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  #2777825 13-Sep-2021 19:48
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cyril7:

Hi, firstly do you have ceiling access directly above, if it was me I would move all the coax cables back to the ceiling, the Kingray amp could go their too. How often do you change or modify the TV cabling, my bet is never or maybe once every 5yrs. This is why whenever I install these things i always place the TV hub in the ceiling close to the person hole so its easy to access.


As for the switch, and I presume the router is somewhere there dangling out of the box, but you can get these to mount things on. What router do you have.


Cyril


Thanks, unfortunately no ceiling access.
Yep, the router not visible on the photo.
Router brand is TP-Link VR1600v (from MyRepublic).
Thanks for the link to the shelves. Might give the cable strips a go for now.

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  #2777833 13-Sep-2021 20:29
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I used wide 25mm velcro sticky tape from mitre 10.

Stuck the switch and router and multi board to back wall of cabinet but can pull off if needed which isn't often. Can't fit the vodafone modem in though, it sits on top.



  #2777834 13-Sep-2021 20:30
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danepak:
Jase2985:

 

Mine are all cable tied in. took a little bit but i think it looks reasonably tidy.

 


Very tidy! Is it easy to get the device out, if required? And can you insert it again without using new cable ties?

Also, a battery??? For what? (Sorry, just curious).

 

Ive never had the need to get anything out but i probably could.

 

Battery connects to the Constant Vigil Sentry Lite (small black box above the white power brick) which provides backup power to the ONT and Router. With the 22Ah battery it should be good for a day or so.


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  #2777836 13-Sep-2021 20:34
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I've got a Dynamix 28" cabinet, model HWS-2803V (older model is discontinued).

 

And I used the Dynamix universal mounting bracket (HBK-1001), to mount the fibre ONT on, and also made some white wooden shelves attached via screws to the universal brackets, then the bracket clips to the holes in enclosure.

 

But, the mounting holes in your enclosure look different to mine, so not sure if this mounting bracket will work?

 

 

Older photo showing whole cabinet:

 


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  #2792861 10-Oct-2021 21:02
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We're going down the path of building a house at the moment. The builder says the usually install these exact recessed cabinets in the wall of the garage. I'm wondering if it's better to get a wall mounted network cabinet or similar instead of something like this?


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  #2792956 11-Oct-2021 07:19
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Hi, if you are having a pretty standard home installation then these inwall cabinets are perfectly fine, however if you intend to have a NAS or other network component beyond ONT, Router, Switch and maybe ATA, then yes a cabinet or wall frame would be recommended.

 

In my view, putting ISP supplied routers in an inwall cabinet is a disaster. They are designed to be desk mounted and resist inwall cabinet installation no matter how hard you try, and further, the WiFi in them will now be useless as its locked in a faraday sheild!

 

Hence in all the installations I have done recently, its a Mikrotik router (very small and compact and easily mounts on the back wall of the cabinet) an 8 or 16port switch of a desktop format that readily mounts on the rear panel, and two or three proper installed wireless APs mounted at appropriate locations on the ceiling for maximum coverage (ie can see over clutter/furniture etc), leaving only the POE injectors in the cabinet, alternatively up the price of the switch so it has some POE ports to play with. And obviously theres the ONT, again mounted on its fibre splice containment on the rear of the inwall cabinet.

 

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  #2792966 11-Oct-2021 08:02
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It can be a bit cramped in there, but it’s OK.
I’ve got the router (with WiFi turned off), TV signal booster and a PoE switch.
The switch connects to two wireless APs. As previous poster pointed out, the WiFi signal from the router would be seriously affected if I had it on.

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  #2793074 11-Oct-2021 11:45
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danepak: It can be a bit cramped in there, but it’s OK.
I’ve got the router (with WiFi turned off), TV signal booster and a PoE switch.
The switch connects to two wireless APs. As previous poster pointed out, the WiFi signal from the router would be seriously affected if I had it on.

 

 

 

Thanks Cyril, that's quite useful info. I just want to make sure I get it right pre build! In my experience some electricians aren't that well versed with the networking side of the business. I have seen some really good tidy installs in those recessed wall cabinets, but like you say it can be tight, and I wonder if heat will be an issue?

 

I would assume if I went with a wall mounted cabinet, the only thing I would really need network related in the recessed wall unit would be the ONT, which would then link to the wall mounted network cabinet? My plan is to have 2 x wireless AP's, switch with POE, patch panel, maybe a cloud key gen2, and room for future NAS. 


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  #2793087 11-Oct-2021 12:07
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danepak: It can be a bit cramped in there, but it’s OK.
I’ve got the router (with WiFi turned off), TV signal booster and a PoE switch.
The switch connects to two wireless APs. As previous poster pointed out, the WiFi signal from the router would be seriously affected if I had it on.

Forgot to mention that the ONT is in there as well

  #2793185 11-Oct-2021 13:36
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I have my Router and ONT in the cabinet shown in the picture above, in a cupboard close by i have a network switch, patch panel and an UPS. with the intent on having a NAS and NVR in there too, later on down the track

 

here is the cupboard, using the shelf with the Rack mounted patch panel and the one below it for other networking stuff if i need the space.

 

 

 

you could go with a wall mounted cabinet, you just need to work out how big you need it and how you are gonna get the cabling elsewhere in the house.

 

 

 


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