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Daynger

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#300885 11-Oct-2022 18:26
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HI Brainiacs, 

 

This normally isnt an issue for me when setting up stuff, but im bleeding my life into setting up an IP module for an alarm system for a customer.

 

Usually we dont need to touch the router at all and the IP module just blasts out into the world like there is nothing there, but on this one site its killing me.

 

I have done quite a bit of port fowarding with setting up CCTV systems though, im not great at it but not a complete noob.

 

 

 

DSC TL280 IP module, runs via a cable i ran through to a little 5port network switch, then back to a server rack with a bigger network switch, then through to the router, the aforementioned shvtbox Huawei, then on to the ONT and out into the world.

 

No firewalls.

 

 

 

I can plug my laptop in at the IP module and get internet just fine, ping the router everything.

 

I can plug my laptop in at the router and can ping the IP module, just fine.

 

 

 

They had an earlier version Huawei router which vodafone has now swapped out for the new one, they need this one as they have two voip lines through it and their IT guy is a bit, um, average.

 

On both routers i tried port triggering and port fowarding the ports i have been told by DSC i need to open but nothing seems to stick, with the port programming done i use an online port checker and everything still tests as closed.

 

I have tried with the huawei firewall off/on, the new router doesnt do a DMZ so cant try that.

 

 

 

I need a range of ports open for monitoring and a single port for an app.

 

 

 

Any tips are welcome.

 

 

 

Thanks


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Spyware
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  #2980735 11-Oct-2022 18:40
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Nice if you could provide the port numbers.





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  #2980745 11-Oct-2022 19:50
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Never port forward to Cameras Use A VPN or Cloud Cameras




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Daynger

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  #2982080 12-Oct-2022 19:19
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Spyware:

 

Nice if you could provide the port numbers.

 

 

 

 

3060-3066

 

1303




Daynger

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  #2982081 12-Oct-2022 19:20
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nztim: Never port forward to Cameras Use A VPN or Cloud Cameras

 

 

 

Its not for cameras, but why shouldnt you port foward?

 

Security risk?


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  #2982199 13-Oct-2022 10:46
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Daynger:

 

nztim: Never port forward to Cameras Use A VPN or Cloud Cameras

 

Its not for cameras, but why shouldnt you port foward?

 

Security risk?

 

 

As a General rule I discourage port forwarding when I am not 100% sure of the device security of the device been port forwarded to

 

My only public port forward I've ever had is the data port for PLEX, but even then, the plex server was on a DMZ with no traffic allowed back into my LAN





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  #2982214 13-Oct-2022 11:22
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Do you know for certain that router swap caused this problem??





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Daynger

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  #2982428 13-Oct-2022 19:08
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Spyware:

 

Do you know for certain that router swap caused this problem??

 

 

 

 

The previous Huawei router (looked like a HG659) had the same problem, vodafone sent a newer model (DN8245) and its still not letting stuff through.


 
 
 

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  #2982431 13-Oct-2022 19:19
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Reading the installation info for those modules, it looks like the ports you mention need to be available for outbound connections, not inbound. You shouldn't need to do any config on the router - all you are doing is creating a further security issue, same as opening inbound ports for CCTV.

 

What error code is the modules giving you?


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  #2982521 14-Oct-2022 10:29
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RunningMan:

 

Reading the installation info for those modules, it looks like the ports you mention need to be available for outbound connections, not inbound. You shouldn't need to do any config on the router - all you are doing is creating a further security issue, same as opening inbound ports for CCTV.

 

What error code is the modules giving you?

 

 

 

 

I get a comms error on the alarm panel and the IP module cant see the outside world as i cannot activate it via the installer app.

 

The app required inbound and outbound as you can arm and disarm via the app too so it must be 2way communication.


Daynger

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  #2982522 14-Oct-2022 10:31
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Normally i dont need to do any opening of ports or fowarding, the IP module just works.

 

Here it just isnt.


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  #2982571 14-Oct-2022 12:01
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Daynger:

 

I get a comms error on the alarm panel and the IP module cant see the outside world as i cannot activate it via the installer app.

 

The app required inbound and outbound as you can arm and disarm via the app too so it must be 2way communication.

 

 

What error is the IP module giving though? Manuals are here. Looks like different LED colours/flashes gives the code. Jusy because an app can control it from outside doesn't mean you need inbound ports open, it is likely controled from an outgoing connection to a cloud server.

 

To reiterate what has been said countless times in these forums, do not open any incoming ports unless you know and fully understand what it is doing. Don't just follow random instructions that say open this or that port. More often than not, the result is like leaving the front door open when you go out, as those instructions are meant to get things going quickly with little or no thought to security.


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