Connection Problem with iPAQ 3970 and WL110 WiFi Card

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Rambler

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#369 28-Jul-2003 12:01

Hi,

I have the following setup that Im trying to connect to my Netgear MR814v2
wireless router.

- iPAQ 3970 PPC2002 2.10 ROM
- PCMCIA expansion pack
- Compaq WL110 PCMCIA WiFi card with the latest drivers from
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/handheldiPAQ/us/locate/71_4704.html
- Netgear MR814v2 wireless router withthe latest 5.01 firmaware connected to
a WinXP Home desktop.
- Network properties include TCP/IP and Client for Microsoft Networks.

My router does not appear to be the problem as I have successfully created a
wireless network with my toshiba laptop with built in wifi and can browse
the net.

The iPAQ can see my wireless network but cant connect. All the drivers are
successfully loaded in the iPAQ but the iPAQ wont see my network for some
reason.

If I turn off WEP I can see the network but still cant connect to it. The
WEP keys are correct in both the desktop and the iPAQ.

I have tried specifying a specific IP and the DNS settings from my ISP as
well as configuring the router as a DHCP server and leaving the settings in
my iPAQ blank.

Could someone please assist me in getting my iPAQ and WL1110 card up and
running on a WiFi network.

Thanks

Rambler

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#799 28-Jul-2003 13:17

A couple of months ago HP released a bulletin about the H5450 not supporting wireless routers with 802.11b and 802.11g. I haven't read anything about the H3970, but could this be the case?

The bulletin is here and since then an update was released.

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#800 28-Jul-2003 13:55

hi

the netgear router I have is only 802.11b capable http://www.netgear.com.au/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=151&view= .

Are you mentioning dual mode routers, or that thatthe iPAQ's will not connect to any wifi router whether it is 802.11b or 802.11g?

Thanks

Rambler

David Hettel

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#801 28-Jul-2003 14:42

Rambler there are lots of ways to set up networks. I am not sure I understand all that you are telling me. So some simple questions how is your network put together? Do all of your computers plug into the netgear or connect to it wirelessly? What I am trying to find out is do the all have the same first IP address 192.168.1.xxx where only the xxx changes?

I am confused to by this:

The iPAQ can see my wireless network but cant connect. All the drivers are
successfully loaded in the iPAQ but the iPAQ wont see my network for some
reason.

Your wireless network should be the same as your wired network. So are you saying it can see the netgear as an Access Point? But it can't connect to the network? That would say it is a wep problem. As I recall for netgear you need to be using Hex to enter the password. If you use a password like "HappyJack101" the netgear and your WL110 will turn this into two different passwords. So to get around this you need to us HEX on both of them.

I had this conbination, a 3970 and a wl110 card this is a very good combination. It will connect.

David

Rambler

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#802 28-Jul-2003 15:22

David

The desktop plugs into one of the routers LAN ports and has an IP of 192.168.0.3.
The router has an IP of 192.168.0.2 which is also the gateway.
The dsl modem is in bridged mode and has an IP of 192.168.0.1 which cant be changed due to hardware settings.
The laptop connects wirelessly to the router and has an IP of 192.168.0.4.
Everything is on a 255.255.255.0 subnet.

When I disable WEP I can see the network but cant connect to it. Yes I can see the access point in terms of the SSID.

So to make it work I have to use HEX for the WEP keys eg 1234567890 instead of alphanumeric eg ipaq2468?

Thanks

Rambler

Rambler

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#803 28-Jul-2003 15:54

I mean to say for HEX keys, is it correct to assume that a Hex key should contain charachters from 0-9 and A-F and be 26 figures.

Also Ive entered a HEX key into the iPAQ under Seetings>Wireless Network>Data Security.

The iPAQ has converted this into "Use Alphanumeric Charachters" even though I checked "Use Hexadecimal". Is this correct.

My router only has the option of using Hexadecimal Keys for WEP for 64 or 128 bit encryption.

Is it correct to enter a 26 digit figure with Hex charachters on both the router and the iPAQ to get it working even though the iPAQ seems to convert it to Alphanumeric?

Thanks

Rambler

David Hettel

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#804 28-Jul-2003 16:48

Ok I need to know a little more about your system. You say the DSL modem is setup to 192.168.0.1 and can't be change. To me that implies that your DSL company doesn't want you to share your connection. You have the router in your Netgear, are you using it? or what the DSL people are serving you? Normally you would have the WAN port (of your Netgear) connected to the DSL modem. And the Netgear would take the place of any computer that you have. So the DSL modem and the Netgear become one network. Say in 192.168.0.xxx space. Then your Netgear serves IP address in say 192.168.1.xxx space to all of the PC connected to it. I think this would be the preferred way of doing things.

You said you have disabled the wep key but you still can not connect. That sounds like the 3970 is not getting a valid IP address. Which sounds like you might have run out of address from your DSL server. With wep disabled it doesn't enter into the picture. After you get internet access then you can enable it and fix what needs to be fix with it.

Try downloading vxUtil from here www.cam.com/vxutil.html and installing it on your 3970, disable wep on your system temporarily and see if you can connect from the 3970. If you can't try using IPconfig on one of your PC computer with the /release all command. To disconnect a PC from your network and see if you can then connect using your iPAQ. If you can then connect, that would tell me you are not using the router in your Netgear, the Netgear is in effect a bridge to your DSL connection. And you have reached the limit of your connections.

David

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#805 28-Jul-2003 16:59

David,

Its the modem that has the 192.168.0.1 IP in its firmware (DLink DSL-300+) that cant be changed. My ISP lets me run servers and share my connection.
The Netgear MR814v2 router is in use and connected to an ISP here in Sydney called Swiftel. The WAN port is connected the DSL modem with the desktop connected to one of the four LAN ports.
Yes the DSL modem and the router become one network. The DSL modem is in a bridged mode and the router has the PPPoE settings for the modem. Yes the netgear is acting as the DHCP server and issuing IP's in the range of 192.168.0.3 to 192.168.0.5. 3=Desktop, 4=Laptop, 5=iPAQ, 6=Reserved.

I think there are sufficient IP's as detailed above and the laptop seems to work fine. I can try to increase the IP range from .03 - .09 or something.

Ive downloaded vxUtil and will try it tonight when I get home from work. I'll try disabling wep as well as I think the hex keys may be the problem.

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#816 29-Jul-2003 10:27

Hello,

Ive narrowed down the problem to WEP.
My Netgear router only supports Hexadecimal WEP Keys.
When I enter a Hex WEP Key on my iPAQ, the Wireless Client Manager always reverts it back to Alphanumeric.
If I turn off WEP there is no problem browsing the web or my home network. Its when I activate WEP that it is an issue.
Could you please tell me how to configure it from the iPAQ side so it doesnt always revert back to an Alphanumeric key.
Thanks

Rambler

David Hettel

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#817 29-Jul-2003 10:59

Are you using 0 to 9 and A to F or a to f.

You are entering 26 digits or 10 digits in Key 1 block, it will scroll to let you enter them.

So A1B1C1D1E1F1 Would be 12 digits.

If you tap next, after entering your key and go to the Card Power Management screen, which should be set to off, (as you do not have an Orinoco Access Point) then tap back. Your key will be replaced by ******* but it should still have "Use Hexadecimal" check, correct?

David

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#819 29-Jul-2003 11:21

Yes - ive tried it manually and got the router to generate it. all in figures between 0-9 and a-f.

26 figures in key 1 for both the ipaq and the router. both are checked in key 1.

power management is off.

key is replaced by *****. when i hit back its on hex. when i exit and enter the configuration manager it reverts back to alphanumeric.

Rambler

David Hettel

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#820 29-Jul-2003 11:57

With a little luck we may have an answer here. Go to your wep key entery screen on your PocketPC. Then tap Start (Menu) | Help | You should see a blue "Hexadecimal Value" in the center of this screen, tap on it. My program wants 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F.
They are all uppercase. So try entering your wep key again, but this time use uppercase for the letters only on the iPAQ.

David

Rambler

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#821 29-Jul-2003 12:24

All followed.
the help menu does specify hex keys with 0-9 and A-F in caps
ive entered the WEP key in 0-9 numbers and A-F caps.
ive also entered the wep key as numbers only.
damn thing still keeps reverting back to alphanumeric.

rambler

jazlany

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#1115 21-Aug-2003 23:45

Hi Rambler and David,

I am also using Ipaq 3970 and a WL110 Wireless PC Card, and I having the same problem, the LED on the wireless card is blinking, the small icon on the Ipaq is showing, and the client manager is showing excellent connection, but when I started PPC Internet Explorer, it can find the page, or when I started MSN Messenger, its can't find the server.

Have you guys found the solutions? Look forward to your discussion as I am eager to get connection on wifi pda as well.

Thanks

Jazlan

YukFou

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#10003 7-Nov-2004 06:29

never mind... this conversation is a yr old.. lol