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#139147 29-Jan-2014 13:17
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In today's NZ Herald, Noel Leeming is advertising the "First in New Zealand" 3D Printer ...



Cubify 3D Model Printer, $1999

Make your ideas come to life! First in New Zealand!

- Portable size for classrooms, living rooms, offices.
- 16 different colour cartridges available.
- Print anything up to 5.5" x 5.5" x 5.5"
- Wi-Fi printing. No wires!
- Includes easy to use Cube software.

Selected stores only. Come into these stores to get a demo of the 3D printer:
- Whangarei
- Albany
- Wairau Park
- Westgate
- St Lukes
- Queen Street
- Newmarket
- Sylvia Park
- Hamilton
- Tauranga
- Palmerston North
- Tory Street Tech
- Moorhouse
- Dunedin
- Invercargill


More details on Noel Leemings' website.

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  #976701 29-Jan-2014 14:12
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More, first of that model. And first retail chain

Very small and Still epic expensive. You can self-import maker-bot and or make parts for a diamondmind kit cheaper :)



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  #977810 31-Jan-2014 08:31
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Stumbled upon one at their Dunedin store on Wednesday. Kind of mesmorizing watching it scan backwards and forwards across the item it was producing.
5.5x5.5x5.5 inches isnt a bad size but at $2000 and $99 for the filament cartridges it is going to be an expensive conversation piece in someones home.
Still, a 3D printer is certainly on my list at some stage. Might need to wait 6 months til the price eases a bit though.

Edit: I was told by one of the staff that the piece being made had to be glued to the baseplate. Does that sound normal for 3D printing?




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  #977825 31-Jan-2014 09:17
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$2000 isn't bad considering what it is. Laser printers cost more than that when first publically introduced (and that was in "yesterday's money"). I won't be buying one though. :)



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  #977867 31-Jan-2014 10:17
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I'd love one, but wouldn't know what to make with it, other than random objects.

Maybe design a cool one-off iPhone case or something...?

2 Grand for "cutting edge technology" isn't that bad in context. Not that long ago, a 32" Plasma screen (with no tuner) was $10k.





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  #977879 31-Jan-2014 10:33
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The 1st CD-R's at epic 1x speed were retailing for around similar price.    I remember someone brought 5 of them over from China, and setup a CD writing business from home, burning 1 CD for $30.  Each CD-R lasted approximately 2000-4000 cd's before requiring replacement.
I think we ordered about 200 of them to be burnt before the price dropped to around $500 per drive and we bought our own.




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  #977940 31-Jan-2014 11:24
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Dingbatt: Stumbled upon one at their Dunedin store on Wednesday. Kind of mesmorizing watching it scan backwards and forwards across the item it was producing.
5.5x5.5x5.5 inches isnt a bad size but at $2000 and $99 for the filament cartridges it is going to be an expensive conversation piece in someones home.
Still, a 3D printer is certainly on my list at some stage. Might need to wait 6 months til the price eases a bit though.

Edit: I was told by one of the staff that the piece being made had to be glued to the baseplate. Does that sound normal for 3D printing?


You need something to bond the print to the platform so that it does not move or warp.

Usual techniques are
Hair Spray - Usually for glass but I believe it should work for plastic print beds.
Blue Masking Tape - Wooden Platforms and plastic print beds.

Some people have tried splattering the board with ABS. Cannot vouch for how well this works though. 

My preferred method is the hair spray. It washes off and is cheap. Blue tape is costly and a pain to remove from prints. Not to mention you find it little bits of it all through your your clothes.x




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  #977974 31-Jan-2014 11:51
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I remember seeing a 3D prototype machine back in the late 80s/early 90s - I believe the company designed PC cases. The cost of a single print involved very large numbers.

About a decade ago, a relative was designing engine parts using 3D printing. The process involved sending a cad file to Europe in order to get it 3D printed, then after checking fitment and doing any redesign, sending the cad file to a different country to get it made.

So now, we can do most of that all in-house. So I think things will get cheaper (except for the filament given the normal price of printer ink).




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  #977994 31-Jan-2014 12:19
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TwoSeven: I remember seeing a 3D prototype machine back in the late 80s/early 90s - I believe the company designed PC cases. The cost of a single print involved very large numbers.

About a decade ago, a relative was designing engine parts using 3D printing. The process involved sending a cad file to Europe in order to get it 3D printed, then after checking fitment and doing any redesign, sending the cad file to a different country to get it made.

So now, we can do most of that all in-house. So I think things will get cheaper (except for the filament given the normal price of printer ink).


Hmm I don't know if I would condone using this for business use, it doesn't really seem to be of the quality needed for continual effective use, it seems more a toy or a once in a while use type of product, I think we're a while off good local off the shelf 3D printers being availble.

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You need something to bond the print to the platform so that it does not move or warp.

Usual techniques are
Hair Spray - Usually for glass but I believe it should work for plastic print beds.
Blue Masking Tape - Wooden Platforms and plastic print beds.

Some people have tried splattering the board with ABS. Cannot vouch for how well this works though. 

My preferred method is the hair spray. It washes off and is cheap. Blue tape is costly and a pain to remove from prints. Not to mention you find it little bits of it all through your your clothes.x


This is why heated beds are great. Cover with Kapton tape or just put a glass pane on top 

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  #979152 3-Feb-2014 02:16
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Bought one last week. I printed my own action figure :-)


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  #979410 3-Feb-2014 14:37
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Transcendent:

You need something to bond the print to the platform so that it does not move or warp.

Usual techniques are
Hair Spray - Usually for glass but I believe it should work for plastic print beds.
Blue Masking Tape - Wooden Platforms and plastic print beds.

Some people have tried splattering the board with ABS. Cannot vouch for how well this works though. 

My preferred method is the hair spray. It washes off and is cheap. Blue tape is costly and a pain to remove from prints. Not to mention you find it little bits of it all through your your clothes.x


This is why heated beds are great. Cover with Kapton tape or just put a glass pane on top 


So far have not required a heated platform yet.

Biggest problem for me is that there size is a lot smaller than my build platform and the only problematic prints I have are bigger than the heated spot would be anyway.

All the printing I have done so far is PLA anyway. Have been told for ABS that a heated platform is a must.





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  #979425 3-Feb-2014 14:47
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Saw one of these exact machines on display at Officeworks here in Melbourne last week.

They had a bunch of stuff with the machine that has been produced by it, and I have to say the quality of the outputs were pretty rubbish.




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  #979463 3-Feb-2014 15:36
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Just noticed that the cubify only has 802.11 b/g wi-fi with no ethernet option.
So anyone who buys this will need a 2 radio router or there network speed will slow down to 802.11g.




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I've bought a DiamondMind v2 http://www.mindkits.co.nz/store/3d-printing/diamondmind-3d-printer-v2-assembled and running it with Raspberry Pi so I can put it in a spare room without needing to commit a computer. 
Its $1499 for make yourself or $1699 for a premade version.
It has twice the bed size of the Cubify and is significantly cheaper!
Though initially I was dubious of buying NZ made when there are so many alternatives out there I was not disappointed once I got her up and running. It's really a no brainer considering the hassle and cost of importing. 
If anyones interested in getting one feel free to PM me

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  #980383 4-Feb-2014 22:40
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Transcendent: I've bought a DiamondMind v2 http://www.mindkits.co.nz/store/3d-printing/diamondmind-3d-printer-v2-assembled and running it with Raspberry Pi so I can put it in a spare room without needing to commit a computer. 
Its $1499 for make yourself or $1699 for a premade version.
It has twice the bed size of the Cubify and is significantly cheaper!
Though initially I was dubious of buying NZ made when there are so many alternatives out there I was not disappointed once I got her up and running. It's really a no brainer considering the hassle and cost of importing. 
If anyones interested in getting one feel free to PM me


Same setup as I have except mine is a v1. What are you running on the raspberry pi?
I have tried both octoprint and Repetier and found Repetier to work the best but lacking in the feature set of octoprint.




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