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Topic # 230624 5-Mar-2018 20:02
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Anybody know of some one who can install a few light switches in Hamilton?

 

I'm having trouble finding anybody apart from high end home automation installs with extra hubs etc which run into the thousands

 

We could just do the bulbs but the install is for a guy who is legally blind and other health issues and having it fail cause the wall switch is off is a non starter

 

Looking for hardware like this (could be any other model / brand)
https://www.amazon.com.au/Standard-Wireless-Automation-Lighting-Control/dp/B078M3JS4M

Already have an Echo Plus

 

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  Reply # 1968646 6-Mar-2018 07:45
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Hi,

HR Security and electrical is one of our customers in Hamilton who has installed ZigBee home automation
http://hrsecurity.co.nz/contacts/

In terms of the hardware he can also supply NZ certified ZigBee light switches and other bits. Wulian is one brand which is compatible with Amazon’s Echo. Here is an example of those light switches:
https://www.fusionautomation.co.nz/product/smart-wall-switch1/

Cheers


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  Reply # 1968662 6-Mar-2018 08:29
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Apart from the very expensive z-wave types, are there any options for a wireless home automation switch to install behind an existing light switch? 

 

The sonoff ones would be perfect but for some inexplicable reason they still don't have terminals to allow them to be controlled by the existing wall switch (and they may be a bit too bulky to fit). This makes them useless for this purpose.

 

There are hacks for this, but I don't really have time to hack a dozen or more of these things.


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  Reply # 1968673 6-Mar-2018 08:37
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This is why the Z-Wave micro/nano modules are worth their price (IMO). They are small enough so you can easily fit 1-2 inside a standard flush box, certified and safe for use in NZ, and fit-for-purpose. I.e. have screw terminals and instructions for how to wire into different wiring configs. I agree they are not the cheapest, but if you can use the 2xrelay modules as much as possible (i.e. switches with two circuits) then you half the effective cost.


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  Reply # 1968682 6-Mar-2018 08:53
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Agreed - Z-wave is the way to go. I'm just not getting anywhere with the appropriations committee (wife) on that level of expenditure at the moment.

 

 


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  Reply # 1968694 6-Mar-2018 09:14
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Nzengsaif: Hi,

HR Security and electrical is one of our customers in Hamilton who has installed ZigBee home automation
http://hrsecurity.co.nz/contacts/

In terms of the hardware he can also supply NZ certified ZigBee light switches and other bits. Wulian is one brand which is compatible with Amazon’s Echo. Here is an example of those light switches:
https://www.fusionautomation.co.nz/product/smart-wall-switch1/

Cheers



Thanks for the contact, I've messaged them directly


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  Reply # 1968736 6-Mar-2018 09:25
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Also have a look at the Wemo wifi light switch, no hub is required to work with Alexa or Google Home.


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  Reply # 1968743 6-Mar-2018 09:33
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Blanch:

 

Also have a look at the Wemo wifi light switch, no hub is required to work with Alexa or Google Home.

 



Do you have an NZ supplier / Installer ?



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  Reply # 1968748 6-Mar-2018 09:37
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Blanch:

 

Also have a look at the Wemo wifi light switch, no hub is required to work with Alexa or Google Home.

 

 

Yep, but I don't think anyone is selling them in NZ/AU at the moment? In which case, if you get one from Amazon etc are the switches compatible with NZ? Not just voltage, (and wiring - needs a neutral wire?) but the form factor to fit your wall flush-box?

 

Because if they are compatible, then these are cool:

 

http://a.co/998fTKG

 

There's still a slight issue I think these need a bridge to work with Alexa. I'm looking primarily for an in-wall switch but would go with this kind of device if I can get it coloured black, no hub required and will fit my existing wall flush boxes and wiring.

 

 


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  Reply # 1968807 6-Mar-2018 11:35
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Killerkiwi2005:

 

Blanch:

 

Also have a look at the Wemo wifi light switch, no hub is required to work with Alexa or Google Home.

 



Do you have an NZ supplier / Installer ?


 

 

Yep, sorry looks like they are now out of stock, I got mine from Bunnings.

 

I also use z-wave for WAF (switches don't change). Z-wave is just not as user friendly to setup.


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  Reply # 1968879 6-Mar-2018 13:19
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Its been over a year now since the Wemo wifi switches were sold in NZ.  But I saw one on trademe go for ~$200 a few months back.


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  Reply # 1968882 6-Mar-2018 13:30
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Anyone know why they stopped supplying ANZ?

 

 


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  Reply # 1968952 6-Mar-2018 14:31
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kryptonjohn:

 

Anyone know why they stopped supplying ANZ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

No I've asked them a couple of times on their forums and sent an email, heard nothing useful back.


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  Reply # 1968959 6-Mar-2018 14:47
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No I've asked them a couple of times on their forums and sent an email, heard nothing useful back.



I suspect demand. I would expect WEMO is dead in NZ now. I’m getting rid of WEMO devices and switching to z-wave.

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  Reply # 1968975 6-Mar-2018 15:08
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Given how expensive z-wave is, I'm surprised. Would have thought someone would have come up with a sonoff based equivalent by now that sells for $10 like the sonoff does. Now you are going to get some demand when the z-wave is 10 times the price.

 

However I'm clearly missing something. If it was that simple sonoff would have done it already.

 

 


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  Reply # 1968989 6-Mar-2018 15:23
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Sonoff devices are not certified for use in NZ as far as I can tell? Plus not burying non certified electrical devices in the wall cavity, and equally the complications of insurance, should my house burn down.

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