Decision for a New TV (OLED VS QLED)

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tamim83

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#290322 3-Nov-2021 12:03

Hi Guys

I am fortunate enough to source a PS5. Hence I need a recommendation regarding OLED and QLED. According to Numerous videos from Youtube/internet etc, LG C1 is the king of this gaming space with 4 HDMI 2.1 port and VRR and ALLM. But on the other hand people who own Cx and Bx models from previous LG OLED's regards them rubbish due to burn in /image retention issues. Please help me to decide which one would be better in the long run as none of them are particularly cheap.

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mattenz

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#2806664 3-Nov-2021 12:18

Are you a big online gamer? If so, you might want to consider response rate in addition to the usual.

tamim83

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#2806668 3-Nov-2021 12:23

No I am not a big online gamer. I am new to this. Used to be PS4 console gamer. I know what you mean but I am not particularly Interested with IPS panels computer monitors which gives you 1MS and 144 HZ refresh rate. Those are not cheap and have very limited size issue. (I Believe 42 inch is the max). That is also $2895 in current market price in comparison to OLED 55 inch C1 or Q90A QLED will be like $3000 for a 55 inch.

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#2806671 3-Nov-2021 12:27

You pretty much do not need to worry about burn in with the new OLEDs unless you are planning on leaving it on CNN 24/7 for example. I have the new C1 and play both ps5 and x1x on it and it is incredible.

The only factor that would sway me away from an OLED was the lighting condition of the room I was playing in. If you have a lot of direct light on the screen or plan on playing in the middle of the day in a bright room then perhaps compare against an LED TV.

mattenz

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#2806672 3-Nov-2021 12:29

tamim83:

No I am not a big online gamer. I am new to this. Used to be PS4 console gamer. I know what you mean but I am not particularly Interested with IPS panels computer monitors which gives you 1MS and 144 HZ refresh rate. Those are not cheap and have very limited size issue. (I Believe 42 inch is the max). That is also $2895 in current market price in comparison to OLED 55 inch C1 or Q90A QLED will be like $3000 for a 55 inch.

I'm not talking about getting a crazy computer monitor, but there are TVs where the input lag is really quite bad. Particularly if you're playing something like CoD where there is cross play with PC, it can be a distinct disadvantage.

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#2806673 3-Nov-2021 12:33

Welcome ~~to the jungle~~ Geekzone

In regards to OLEDs and burn-in, I can give you a long-winded technical spiel if you need a nap, but the tl;dr of it is that for 99% of people, it won't be an issue for the lifetime of the TV. If it happens in the near future, it's a fault, not a feature. In return, you are getting contrast levels and image uniformity which are unmatched by any non-self emissive TV panel.

One area where OLEDs haven't quite surpassed LCD-LED is brightness; OLEDs need a bit of thought for ambient light control, whereas the more premium LCD-LEDs can get bright enough to overcome ambient as well deliver actual HDR. As long as you aren't planning to use it in direct sunlight, it's not worth the trade-off in PQ IMO

All of the front runners in the OLED space (LG C1, Panasonic JZ1000, Sony A80) support some form of HDMI 2.1 features, but so far, the LG C1 is probably the most complete implementation.

C1 ftw

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#2806689 3-Nov-2021 13:09

I'd take (and did) a LG C1 over any other option. It's amazing.

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#2806692 3-Nov-2021 13:14

Thanks for that. I am not placing the Tv in the bright sunlight room. It will be in my mancave /garage etc which has one window but sun light does not shine much. Normally I enjoy normal streaming in dark rooms anyways with my current FALD display Sony X950G from couple of years back (Which is sitting in the living room and I am not planning to spend much time there for gaming etc). Hence the hesitation. I know that Sony FALD display has blooming issues, which I hate the most. But the QLED is far better especially the Neo Qled variant from Samsung. But they are the same price the OLED, which makes it hard for a decision.

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#2806711 3-Nov-2021 13:50

tamim83:

Thanks for that. I am not placing the Tv in the bright sunlight room. It will be in my mancave /garage etc which has one window but sun light does not shine much. Normally I enjoy normal streaming in dark rooms anyways with my current FALD display Sony X950G from couple of years back (Which is sitting in the living room and I am not planning to spend much time there for gaming etc). Hence the hesitation. I know that Sony FALD display has blooming issues, which I hate the most. But the QLED is far better especially the Neo Qled variant from Samsung. But they are the same price the OLED, which makes it hard for a decision.

Never forget that QLED is just Samsung's fancy marketing name for a LCD-LED TV with a quantum dot layer, same as LG with their NanoCell branding (although different results since they use IPS panels).

While it may perform better than your X950G in areas like local dimming, since the QN90A has a miniLED backlight, it still doesn't hold a candle to OLED and you will never be able to escape blooming issues inherent in that technology. One other thing worthy of note in FlatpanelsHD's review is that they called out the Samsung for elevated brightness level in their dynamic tone-mapping, seen here side-by-side with a Sony X90J, which technically has inferior local dimming. They also called it out for the Game picture mode ruining the feel of some games, so you will be trading better latency at the cost of PQ by using it.

Even if the Samsung was cheaper, IMO the C1/OLED is worth a pretty substantial price delta over it. Your use case would be perfect for a C1 I reckon.

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#2806734 3-Nov-2021 14:42

i bought the top of the line Samsung Q9 65' several years ago. It is in a lounge room with plenty of light and windows. I now dont have to pull the blinds to see the screen plus there are no reflections on the screen. Love it. Picture is clear as day. Although I believe that OLED is better in a darkened room, with deeper blacks, whiter whites etc etc. OTY really but the more you invest the better the quality IMHO. At the end of the day its just a TV and in 5 - 10 years you'll be getting another anyway.

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#2808189 5-Nov-2021 19:07

mecow:

The only factor that would sway me away from an OLED was the lighting condition of the room I was playing in. If you have a lot of direct light on the screen or plan on playing in the middle of the day in a bright room then perhaps compare against an LED TV.

I've found that a great accessory for a recently bought LG C1, was some TP-Link Tapo WiFi bulbs. You can control them with Alexa and they are cheap as chips. Even cheaper from Noel Leeming if you an old bugger and have a Gold Card (I've been getting about 20% off list price). It makes it super convenient to black the room out for an OLED TV without breaking your neck trying to find the light switch when the program ends.

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#2808200 5-Nov-2021 19:36

Burn in is still an issue for OLED used on a PC, see the video below. Used as a TV it's not really an issue anymore.

If you are willing to spend the cash OLED will give you the best picture quality, if you aren't LCD/QLED has come a long way and will still give you a wonderful experience. If you are buying something decent but it with HDMI 2.1, even if you don't need it now it gives you better headroom for the next 5 years.