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#303531 16-Feb-2023 15:24
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Looking for recommendations for 90mm rgb down lights that work wonderfully in home assistant. Local control, hopefully without needing a non standard controller (zigbee, zwave,wifi all good, hue/smart things not so good).

All my lights already have smart switches and will continue to use those. But would like to change light color for kids night lights and well cos it's cool. Can use for notifications or something then.


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  #3037767 16-Feb-2023 15:46
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I use these - https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/tp-link-tapo-l530e-smart-wifi-multicolour-bulb-e27/N207571.html?&&&&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQiAorKfBhC0ARIsAHDzslu8ZJTaOYIHtSNH556u5DiFzmvNOs4ymwRXwPd7cnj7D3KjtieuC0saAsfSEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

 

 

buy through amazon though in packs of 5, they cheaper there.

 

 

 

Integrate well into HA and I use them as night lights for my kids in various scenes.

 

If they can do local only - i dont know, havent tested it

 

 

 

EDIT - see you after downlights, I assume all in one and not a normal light recessed into the ceiling?

 

 

 

I have these in my cart but havent orderd - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004942679344.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21NZD%21NZ%24%2025.66%21NZ%24%2017.96%21%21%21%21%21%40210323a516765157418105795e1519%2112000031100539298%21btf&_t=pvid:63eb2e7d-edfe-4e87-afa3-698e664a4c43&afTraceInfo=1005004942679344__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1676515742&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct




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  #3037768 16-Feb-2023 15:46
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Don't resist it, just go Zigbee / Matter. 

 

I spent a long time standarding on Lifx because they were WiFi. As an aside, if you were 100% set on using WiFi then Lifx are great. I also have a ton of other devices, from other manufacturers, with their own Apps, just because I wanted everything to be on WiFi.

 

But, WiFi is just so unreliable compared to Zigbee. It also has the downside that your IoT devices are internet connected, or presumed to be internet connected. Which is not a benefit!

 

Zigbee + a Conbee II stick is what I chose and would be my recommendation. I currently have mostly Hue bulbs where I wanted RGB. I have never owned a Hue Hub, I do everything from Home Assistant.





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  #3037774 16-Feb-2023 15:55
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Athom smart plugs work well with HA, I expect their lights would as well. A quick look suggests they might be out of stock though.




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  #3037777 16-Feb-2023 15:57
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im only starting to look into zigbee, everything else has been zwave.  i bought a home assistant skyconnect for zigbee (should arrive tomorrow).

 

 

 

Is there anything I should look out for with zigbee, or is it pretty much most zigbee devices should work with the skyconnect and ever zigbee2mqtt or ZHA?

 

sure some will always have issues, but it it generally, its ok?  I am aware there are rare things that use EU or US specific frequencies, but these are very rare.

 

 

 

Those downlights from ali do look like they would do the trick, so about to hit buy on em.   Unless can anyone see if they could be an issue?   1 unit is basically same as the price for 4, so may just buy 2 (my kids room have two downlights each), and see how I go


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  #3037846 16-Feb-2023 19:03
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Generally zigbee is zigbee. If it follows the standard it’ll be 2,4 GHz and will work. Things like OTA updates are where it gets a bit more variable.

Zigbee2mqtt provides very good documentation on their site for what functionality is and isn’t supported.

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/

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  #3037917 16-Feb-2023 20:25
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Also picking the right channels from the get go can help a bit with reliability.
https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/zigbee-wifi-coexistence/


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  #3039323 20-Feb-2023 11:24
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I tried to go this route and couldn't find anything except questionable Chinese stuff on Aliexpress or Amazon. I've had a 100% bad experience with all Chinese lighting products that's aren't of a recognisable/reputable brand (e.g. Aqara) and don't really want to repeat that on a large scale, especially with downlights which might need sparky input to install/replace. The Zigbee part wasn't the issue, the lights themselves have just been very poor and unreliable.

 

My plan A was the Athom/Wiz ones, even though I didn't particularly want 30+ downlights on my wifi network, but Bunnings stopped carrying them and I couldn't find a decent alternative supplier.

 

There are Hue ones, which are the gold standard for Zigbee, but they're extremely expensive and have limited options in terms of size/brightness etc. If you can swing $100 per light I doubt you'd be disappointed. I just ended up going for dumb downlights and gave up on the RGB.


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  #3039385 20-Feb-2023 13:21
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Kogan/Dicksmith have bluetooth controlled Tuya ones for cheap quite often. I have not looked into if they are controllable from HA with a bluetooth device yet, but they are a very cheap LED light that would give you a non cloud control if that is possible.





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  #3039390 20-Feb-2023 13:25
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ozsmartthings have some zigbee downlights I may grab.  I dont need heaps, just a couple of rooms, so maybe 10 lights all up.   


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